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[dedalos]

Originally posted by toonces3
Everything I'm saying is applied to an MA environment.

Dueling is a totally different animal.

Don't you think there is a reason the merges are like that in the DA?  Its so no one has an unfair advantage over the other guy.  You turn too early, you die.  You turn too late, you die. It is that simple no matter the environment (unless you have the speed to rope the bad guy).  The guy coming in for the HO shot does have an advantage over you.  He may not know it or you may not know it but he does.  He is on offense you are on defense.  What happens after that depends on the planes, pilots, and estates.  There is no golden rule about a lead turn, a late lead turn (what ever that is) or the guy HOing is going to lose because of his evil ways.  He already caused you to go defensive.

[shamroc]

One man's HO is another man's "High Deflection Snapshot".



Shamroc

[Tiger]

Opinions are like .....  well you know the rest

[WaRLoCkL]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Saw a f4u-1a last night about 4.5k away co-alt and it was coming towards me from about 12:30, I  was going to see if it was interested in fighting me then saw tracers flying from 800yrds out as it passed.   It was definitely trying for cheap shot as it apparently was not interested in setting up a fight.  I turned and followed it and then it got jumped and went to the deck under friendlies.  Once under friendlies it started to reverse the plane that chased it down there.  I dropped in and popped the HO bag:  SYSTEM: You have shot WarlockL down.!:aok

Its cause u were cherry picking in a pony, and u woulcnt come face me, If i recall correctly, u were tricky booming and zooming amongst all your freindlies, u just got lucky being the one out of the group to get me.

U talk about me to much skyrock, Ive told u befor i will not date u.

[WaRLoCkL]

Originally posted by SkyRock
Saw a f4u-1a last night about 4.5k away co-alt and it was coming towards me from about 12:30, I  was going to see if it was interested in fighting me then saw tracers flying from 800yrds out as it passed.   It was definitely trying for cheap shot as it apparently was not interested in setting up a fight.  I turned and followed it and then it got jumped and went to the deck under friendlies.  Once under friendlies it started to reverse the plane that chased it down there.  I dropped in and popped the HO bag:  SYSTEM: You have shot WarlockL down.!:aok

And another thing, read my post befor u quote it, i said ask yourself what u were doing, u may have been co alt but u were 3 times as fast. I didnt have time to 1 on 1 with u as there were to many enemy cons, so i took any **** i had to get rid of u and move to the next one. and u wont facing me to begin with.

Blah Blah Blah BLah BLAH, like shamroc said, one mans HO is another ones high deflection shot.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by raider73
Why do people on 200 mostly Knights say everytime someone talks about being ho'ed they go Takes two to ho. It doesnt take two it takes one  

Correct!  It takes two to merge, one to HO.  The end

[raider73]

yeah thats cheap who ever killed WarLock <> WarLock to bad he is a boom and zoomer

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by raider73
now if u were talking about football and owning then yeah i dont care about if someone does that cause i know no one in my league can own me im to good and did you play Football in Highschool Sky?

[SteveBailey]

And, by doing a lead turn before the merge

Ping ping ping BOOM!

You're in the tower.

[WaRLoCkL]

Originally posted by raider73
yeah thats cheap who ever killed WarLock <> WarLock to bad he is a boom and zoomer

who u refering to as the boom and zoomer?

[schlowy2]

People... !!!

Those who fly turny planes (and took off with 25% fuel, and have their convergence set to 200) do not have the right to yell "Ho!" period.
Extreme example: A Zero can not yell "Ho" at a 262, not ever.

Ho'ing isn't the problem, the problem is the turny planes crying when the faster planes don't turn fight them.

HO PROOF SOLUTION
Keep your convergence set to 650 yards. Hence, when a 'ho-down' happens, all you have to do is FIRE EARLY and then after,  IMMEDIATELY 'BREAK'... put stick all the way to one of the corners (usually one of the 'back' corners) and the rudder in the same direction (left or right) as the stick...
If done correctly, you will see flashes on the enemy plane as his bullets are going by you.

I remember I was in D9 and got accused of 'ho'ing with a turny Spit that had to have taken off with only 25% fuel. He first knife-fight killed both my friends who were suckered into turn fighting it, and then was trying to get back to base since I would only horizontally boom and zoom him. I wouldn't turn fight him, nor would I allow it (the Spit) to go home, everytime he turned towards home, I turned towards his tail. At which time he would turn towards me, in hopes that I would turn fight. He was late on the 2nd time, supposively trying to avoid a 'ho,' he got 'deflection shot'ed and that was that. Then on 200 he yelled 'ho!'...

If your plane is set for extreme turning, and you yell 'Ho!' you are only lieing to yourself and acting stupid to your opponent.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
Its cause u were cherry picking in a pony, and u woulcnt come face me, If i recall correctly,.

You recall very wrong, I flew at you to get you to fight and you sprayed HO like a 2 week newb!!!!!!:rofl

[raider73]

not u warlock i think ur a Ace pilot no boom and zoomer Warlock

[WaRLoCkL]

Originally posted by SkyRock
You recall very wrong, I flew at you to get you to fight and you sprayed HO like a 2 week newb!!!!!!:rofl

Fefer to my original post if u bothered reading it??

If u flew at me strait on, then u should assume u might get shot at.

90% of the players dont hold their fire when they have a shooting solution no matter what angle there facing.

I guess u are under the impression everyone knows its u comming at them and that u wont fire. However on my end I dont know who is comming at me and if they are planning to fire on me or not.  U face your guns at me expect to get some lead on your face.

I guess u are confusing the MA with the DA again. Sorry but I dont intend to spend 10 minutes flying to a fight to end up assuming im going to get a fair 1 on 1 just to get killed in 3 seconds because i was the one who ASSUMED the enemy wont fire.

U know if u get HOED so much u might want to rethink YOUR tactics and not critisize me on mine? just some food for thought, how about I fly my plane and u fly yours. Everyone hates a backseat driver.

[WaRLoCkL]

That is suppose to be REFER not FEFER, but considering this is a meaningless thread to me, I feel no need to proofread my typing, after all Im not applying for a job at hightech forums;)