Author Topic: Pakistan (Read 1592 times)

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #60 on:** November 04, 2007, 11:07:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Arlo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

Argh, personally, I cringe if I have to use wikipedia sources myself. The editing protocol of letting users edit, is frought with innaccuracies.

Arlo · « **Reply #61 on:** November 04, 2007, 11:14:55 PM »

Wiki articles cite sources and anything challenged is labeled "under dispute" and double checked. I tend to trust it more than poliblogs of any flavor. But I never discourage anyone adding more sources if they don't trust mine (though I may challenge that source as fervently as some challenge mine, in return).

That being said, is my source or attempt at an accurate portrayal under dispute?

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #62 on:** November 04, 2007, 11:39:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Arlo
Wiki articles cite sources and anything challenged is labeled "under dispute" and double checked. I tend to trust it more than poliblogs of any flavor. But I never discourage anyone adding more sources if they don't trust mine (though I may challenge that source as fervently as some challenge mine, in return).

That being said, is my source or attempt at an accurate portrayal under dispute?

Not entirely, Arlo-It's just in other threads on this board, in the past, I've seen some horrible things happen with Wiki. But, to this end, I understand your point about blogs, too, as they are usually nothing more than internet op-eds, with all the bias that entails.

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #63 on:** November 05, 2007, 12:59:13 AM »

Starting to look like things are snowballing over there-check this link out:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071105/ap_on_re_as/pakistan

Gonna be a big mess, really shortly.

Sundowner · « **Reply #64 on:** November 05, 2007, 05:14:45 AM »

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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Starting to look like things are snowballing over there-check this link out:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071105/ap_on_re_as/pakistan

Gonna be a big mess, really shortly.

Roger that, Frode.

Unstable, nuclear-armed Islamic country = not a good thing.

(Like several posters above also pointed out.)

Regards,
Sun

AKIron · « **Reply #65 on:** November 05, 2007, 07:42:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The Taliban was created by the Pakistani intelligence service and exist because the ISI allows them to.

ack-ack

It's no more of a stretch to say that LBJ created the modern anti-everything American liberal.

Viking · « **Reply #66 on:** November 05, 2007, 07:43:22 AM »

WTG guys!

AKIron · « **Reply #67 on:** November 05, 2007, 07:46:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Viking
WTG guys!

Can't even blame LBJ for this guy though.

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #68 on:** November 05, 2007, 08:06:19 AM »

I'm not sure if this is gonna change/hurt the situation, but look at this:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071105/wl_nm/afghan_violence_dc_2

One way or another, it will hurt the situation in Pakistan, even though they are western provinces. Why? It will be a manpower and resource draw that will make it hard for NATO forces to mount a relief, or other kind of operation to help stabilize Pakistan.It's also a Taliban victory when we don't need one.

AKIron · « **Reply #69 on:** November 05, 2007, 08:19:44 AM »

No surprise the Taliban is taking advantage of the unrest caused by Musharraf's recent actions. We need to secure the nukes and then I guess it's wait and see how it plays out.

x0847Marine · « **Reply #70 on:** November 05, 2007, 03:44:02 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
Yea see that's the thing right there.. I could care less about a poll stat.. However that is the root of the problem.

You rarely ever hear these guys saying they hate Americans or hate westerner's just because we are westerners. They pretty much always put the blame right where is belongs with our policies and western govt's involving themselves in their business.

Maybe one day the people of this country will actually wake up and understand what our govt does throughout the world. We do a lot of good, but we damn sure do a lot of bad as well.

Freedoms we enjoy in the US don't interfere with the daily lives of average mid-easterners / Packis... but US policies can and do. It's that simple.

One example, Irans democratically elected .gov might have survived to this day had US policies not stomped it out... the average Iranian wakes up every day under the rule of despotic mullahs.. and blame it on US policies of long ago... maybe its just me, but I'd tend to think that might create some bitter feelings...

"They hate our freedom" sounds like one of those bumper sticker slogans Rumsfeld's suggested in his snow flakes.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #71 on:** November 05, 2007, 03:57:17 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
It's no more of a stretch to say that LBJ created the modern anti-everything American liberal.

Not at all. It is a known fact that the ISI are the ones that created, supplied and trained the Taliban. It is also a known fact that the ISI continues to support the Taliban, although under the radar. The ISI is riddled with Muslim extremists, unlike the mostly secular Pakistani army.

ack-ack

BiGBMAW · « **Reply #72 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:01:39 PM »

Remember when you shot that thief inside your house.....

Then you grabbed that "throw away " gun..and dropped it at his cold dead feet?

Thats whats waiting those men with dirty beards from the 5 th century...

As soon as they have there hands on a WMD..we can..go BANG!!! Look they were caught red-handed..

I look forward to the speedy demise off all dirty beard men

Please can we just kill them and look for a new problem?

AKIron · « **Reply #73 on:** November 08, 2007, 04:11:44 PM »

Let's hope this ends as well as it looks like it will.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1681917,00.html

uberhun · « **Reply #74 on:** November 08, 2007, 06:01:21 PM »

Pakistan will become a fundamentalist Muslim state. Musharraf Will be deposed by his own people. They will Sadat his Arse. The U.S. of A, will have a difficult time securing those nukes. India and China could get drawn into this to. This is not a good situation over there. Oh and all media is biased. Filter it and come to your own conclusions.