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Offline Chalenge

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« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2007, 10:10:30 AM »
Your wrong about that. Your effectiveness is much higher if you are actually ON the cv. Anytime you load yourself up with more load like handling your plane or engaging enemies is less time to think about the cv. All it takes is a few seconds of distraction and the cv will be down.
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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2007, 10:14:15 AM »
So the main problem here is twofold- you don't like the way people use CVs, and you want HT to protect your rank. These are your problems, not problems within the game.
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« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2007, 10:21:32 AM »
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Originally posted by Chalenge
Okay Ill explain this so you can understand why it was brought up since you seem so mesmerized by score. I assure you it is only your own 'imagination' that cause you to think I care about score. My score comes about just by being in the game. I am not even trying. It just happens. I dont vulch I dont fly from CVs and I dont bomb from a Stuka like the score potatos you admire so much. I do occasionally camp while waiting on guys to capture a field or shut down a VH. But this isnt about me. I posted this feature request because I really think the changes need to be made. So here is my explanation so even you long term 'experts' can understand it.

We have a new guy flying with us. Lets call him John Pilot Noob. John flies for a few days and discovers a squad to fly with during his trial period. The squad flies together and does fighter sweeps escorts their own bombers and do attack sorties. John is flying with them but he doesnt know about the fighter and attack buttons. Somehow he figures out how to load bombs. At first John sucks at bombing from a fighter. He augers a lot or drops short and then long but finally he gets to where he can hit his target. Then John reads in the text buffer one day that one of the squad guys he is flying with has a really really nice rank and now Noob learns about rank and score. He still hasnt managed to bring another plane down but he knows how to bomb and he knows he has killed tanks and hangars during all those attack missions and now he wants to see his score.

Score 0    Rank 5238.

Now John Pilot Noob feels like this is a horrible joke on him and all his hard work has come to nothing.

Have a nice day!



I would hope that John Pilot Noob's squadmates would have let him know that Alt F4 will automatically change his sortie to attack or fighter based on ordinance loadout.


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« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2007, 10:24:50 AM »
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Originally posted by Murdr
The solution already exists.  If you don't like what the commander of a CV is doing, carry a rank so that you're able to take over command.


Murdr,

He can't because the game does not automatically account for his ordinance load and change his sortie from fighter to attack.  Therefore none of his kills count and his rank is in the toilet.  That is the problem.   LOL


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« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2007, 10:41:48 AM »
Hell, let's take the fighter/attack mode thing one step further:

If you up with ord it automatically switches to attack mode.

If you get jumped and get light, it automatically switches you (mid flight) to fighter mode.

And even further:
If you manage to make to to target, once you drop your bombs on target have the program calculate if your bombs will actually hit anything.  If not, automatically switch your mode to fighter. :aok






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« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2007, 10:57:11 AM »
Now your just being ridiculous and not adding anything of substance to the thread. Thanks for coming by.
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« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2007, 10:58:32 AM »
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Now your just being ridiculous and not adding anything of substance to the thread. Thanks for coming by.



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« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2007, 10:59:06 AM »
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Originally posted by Chalenge
....Score 0    Rank 5238.

Now John Pilot Noob feels like this is a horrible joke on him and all his hard work has come to nothing......



This is gonna come across rude, but I dont mean it to be.

Some of the best leasons in life are the hardest learned.

From what you wrote, future greatest cartoon pilot ever John Pilot Noob, is doing the same thing most all of us did when we first started. You even explained in your post how he has progressed.

Now it seems to me that when he learned about rank and score, somebody had to teach or explain rank and score. I think somebody either left out a few minor details or somebody didnt listen. Maybe a case of both.

As you stated he is learning. Let him learn and go through the growing pains we all did. It can be a learning experiance for both you and him. He will learn to be more aware of how he would like to score his sorties and maybe have a little more focus to that small detail when the time comes he gets to help another John Pilot Noob upcomming ace cartoon pilot. You and others involved with his training can also learn to cover and see they understand that small detail.

Your request is somewhat pointless. It has some merit, but it comes across more like a knee jerk reaction. You ask for somebody else to fix your short commings that you yourself are capable of fixing. People learn when they fall they get up. There is no reason, in my mind anyway, for HTC to go spend time to make changes to something that aint really broke to begin with in order for somebody to be lazy and worry bout personal/ squad score. Being able to see how your progressing to some degree is helpful, but score just aint all that. On top of that HTC has great online reference link that can be found using the "Help" link under support on the main HTC page. In case you dont want to look it up I'll give ya the link:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/frameset1.html?ahhelp/index.html

 and here while we are on the subject, this link explains scoring:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/scoring.html


Great reference material. When somebody says RTFM, there is usualy a good reason that is based on their personal experiance. I have found if there is a crappy manual then people are either told more in depth things in game by others from what they themselves have learned from playing or a person is directed to a site that isnt ran by the game because somebody had to go make a better manual themsleves to makes up for the short commings of the game developer. HTC doesnt have that problem. They have a very well thought out and informative online help manual. So go there. Send John Pilot Noob or any of his other minions there. Providing they can understand what they are reading, it can do nothing but help them.


Tell John Pilot Noob, score is like a fine wine. It comes with age. Tell him to go have a good time and stop worrying bout score. If it happens to bothers you that his score being low, is lowering you squads over all score, let him out of the squad until his score comes up, while allowing him to fly with yall and learn the ropes. I'd like to think though that squad score wouldn't mean that much to somebody to have to do that. To each his own I guess.

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« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2007, 11:16:01 AM »
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I can be flying a P-51 fully loaded on climout 200 miles away from a CV and still control it effectively


Effectively, perhaps. But I think the question is can you control it more effectively than someone who is right there, and can see what's happening or about to happen?  

The question though that seems more germaine to me with respect to the game design is why should a person who is 200 miles away from the CV have more right than those who want to fly from it to control it in the first place?

I'm not lobbying to have things changed, but I can definitely see how a case could be made for doing so.

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« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2007, 11:21:46 AM »
Have you ever heard of a "pre-flight check"?

It's a bit easier here than in real life.
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« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2007, 11:30:05 AM »
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Originally posted by Chalenge
Since you dont fly that often your opinion should count less.



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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2007, 11:35:23 AM »
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Have you ever heard of a "pre-flight check"?

It's a bit easier here than in real life.


I dont think he quit graspes the concept.

The game is already default for easy mode, anytime someone starts playing a game, they have to LEARN, u cant just nullify things for them to start flying around killing on the first day, anytime u start a game u make mistakes.

I guess next on the agenda is a automatic engine cut out to prevent compression.

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« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2007, 11:58:28 AM »
You know,  on one of those planned country missions you sign up for on the Missions page, when you hit the runway, a window pops up asking if you want it scored as attack or fighter.

If wouldn't be that difficult for an ordnance load to trigger the same window.

And, it's impossible to disagree that persons nearer the carrier have a better idea about what's going on, especially if the radar is down.

Finally, you guys are criticizing Chalenge for being concerned with score; at the same time you're critcizing him for not having enough score to wrest  control from high score Captain Quigg.

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« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2007, 12:01:14 PM »
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Finally, you guys are criticizing Chalenge for being concerned with score; at the same time you're critcizing him for not having enough score to wrest control from high score Captain Quigg.



Ironic, isn't it?

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« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2007, 12:38:07 PM »
I did like what Donzo said about the switch mid-flight. I think Robert "Mouse" Shaw said (or quoted somoene else) that a plane carrying bombs or rockets was just a target and that only after the ordinance was dropped did that plane become a fighter. I think he stole it from George "Mouse" Preddy myself but it carries even more weight if so.
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