Awaiting Improvements

[1Boner]

Originally posted by jhookt
if i can count without taking off my shoes then the Birds of Prey are currently listed as have 91 members spread out over 6 squads.

if your squads aren't currrently in stagnation, shouldn't you be dissappointed that you can't run 40+ mission on your own?

Not sure if you CAN count to 20 without having your shoes off but, I would suggest trying that count again on a monday nite (squad nite).

If you really knew anything about our squad, you would know that probably
1/3 or more of the people on the squad list are inactive and have been inactive for a very long time.

Alot of the guys don,t live for this game, they come in every now and then to fly. They must have regular lives! Go figure.

Again!!--you will usually only see about 20 of us on mondays squad nite!

Thats 20!!

Not 91 !!



Mathematically yours,

Boner

[Donzo]

64 active this tour.


(I used a pen, a piece of paper, and a calculator to get this number...not my toes)

[crockett]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You mean when you were flying above your town acks?  Thanks for proving my point that all you do is fly near a hord or acks.

As for BnZing you in a P-38 vs. Hurricane I...are you really that clueless about planes?  A Hurricane turns better than a P-38, I'm not going to turn fight on the deck within ack range of your town against a Hurricane.  

I also recall asking you to the DA if you wanted a 1v1 but you made excuses as to why you didn't want to waste your time.  Face it, you're just a tool that likes to hide in the hord or near acks.

It's your dime, fly how you want but don't come on these boards and lecture us about 1v1s when you're just as guilty as those you try to brand.

ack-ack

I proved a point? That I won't let you BnZ me when I'm taking off. lol is that the only way you can get a kill these days?

As for the fight I was talking about, we were over water at the south end of the Baltic map. It was also not on the deck, we were both somewhere close to 13-15k already, you climbed higher as you went away after you made contact with me. You only came back when you had about a 3k alt advantage over me.

Of course me in a Huri 1 couldn't match your climb out so I just followed you knowing what you were going to do. The simple point is you wouldn't fight at an equal alt or on a level playing field.

Sure I can turn better than you in a Huri 1, but you had more than enough alt already to try to force a vertical fight. You could easily out climb and out dive my plane, but I could turn better. Seems like a pretty equal fight to me.

You even had an advantage in guns considering your plane has cannons and could very easily take mine out with 1 good burst vs mine only having .303's  which would require me to get several good long lasting hits on you. So while you only had to hit me once, I needed to hit you quite a bit to kill you.

In short I think it would have been a pretty even fight reguardless of the gun advantage you had, but I guess you didn't think so. The difference between me and you is when you came back I knew I likely couldn't win the fight but I didn't care because to me it's more about the challenge.

There is not much a Huri 1 is going to do against someone whom is going to fight like a girl with a alt advantage and do nothing but BnZ. However the diffrence is I stayed and I fought you, I didn't run away because I was at a disadvantage.

[ghi]

Originally posted by The Fugitive




Having the mentality to believe that having your two, or three squads of guys completely destroy a base in one pass, is first fun, and second defendable against is just ridiculous. Its up to your squad, and GHI's "missions" to help make the game fun for everyone.
.

 You are one of the guttess  whining lads hiding in tower  or BB , if a base is under heavy attack,   grow some ,fight back and don't teach others what to do  for their $$

[crockett]

Originally posted by The Fugitive

The whole "community" is falling into this.... what would you call it, "poor gamesmenship"? In the old days when you saw two guys fighting it out, you asked if they wanted help. Today you have 5 guys diving "to save a countrymen". In the old days squads fought each other, now they runaway, and look for the easy base to grab.
 

The problem is, the community has been dumbed down to the point that gangbangs are pretty much standard operating procedures. It's not just missions, it's pretty much everything.

No one can ever leave a fight alone, and if you do get lucky and find another single con. Nine times out of ten he's either a base porker or someone whom will run as soon as he loses the advantage.

I've only been flying in this game about a year, but even in that short time I've seen the fighting go downhill. I do agree though, about the only thing that will help is if the bigger squads start setting the example.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by crockett
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I've only been flying in this game about a year, but even in that short time I've seen the fighting go downhill.

I rather think your perception may have changed. Things that you didn't notice when you were new now spring to your eye, after getting some experience.
I didn't see much change in player behaviour in the last 2 years (that's how long I am playing). It's not that a 1vs1 was usually more respected in tour 70 than in tour 94. (My old films are full of recorded cries about rams, ho's,  horde- and pickdweebs )

I did, however, see many many people becoming bored or upset about some things. But often the game hasn't changed - they had.

And if you spend some time reading really old postings on this BBS you can find many postings about the gameplay having degenerated to the point it's getting unplayable, way back to the year 2000

The fighting gone downhill rant is as old as this game, and if it would really have been true all the time, I wonder why HTC is still in business

[crockett]

Originally posted by Lusche
I rather think your perception may have changed. Things that you didn't notice when you were new now spring to your eye, after getting some experience.
I didn't see much change in player behaviour in the last 2 years (that's how long I am playing). It's not that a 1vs1 was usually more respected in tour 70 than in tour 94. (My old films are full of recorded cries about rams, ho's,  horde- and pickdweebs )

I did, however, see many many people becoming bored or upset about some things. But often the game hasn't changed - they had.

And if you spend some time reading really old postings on this BBS you can find many postings about the gameplay having degenerated to the point it's getting unplayable, way back to the year 2000

The fighting gone downhill rant is as old as this game, and if it would really have been true all the time, I wonder why HTC is still in business

Maybe it's that, all I know is this game is fast becoming a bore to me. I once saw the game as a lot of fun and seemed like it used to be easier to find good fights. Now days it just seems like it's nothing but the furlballs, but maybe it's just a change in my perception of the game. I don't know.

All I know is the guys that want more 1 on 1 fights really don't have much options. The DA is about the only place for that and even then it's mostly filled with people in the furball area that do nothing but gangbang.

[The Fugitive]

Originally posted by ghi
You are one of the guttess  whining lads hiding in tower  or BB , if a base is under heavy attack,   grow some ,fight back and don't teach others what to do  for their $$

LOL!!! GHI all those jet fumes must be getting to you !!! I have been shot down many a time by your 163's, and I have been one of the few to go against the BOPs when they steamroll a base, died a bunch of times to 5 or 6 tiffies all going for the HO on my lone P38, its all good, I got a couple of them, and I had fun !  even the banter on 200 with the BOPs is fun, its a game!!!

My suggestions isn't telling anyone how to spend their $$, I'm just suggestion a different way to go about doing the same thing your doing already. OK, lets say we are playing basketball. I'm 6' 7'', your 5 nothing. We are the only two around. With my height, and with the amount of ground I can cover, I'd say you were over matched. Not alot of fun for me, too easy, not a lot of fun for you, too hard.

Either we change the rules, or neither one of us has any fun. So we change things, I can't run, and I can't go into the key. Its harder for me now, and the only thing easier for you is defense. The games still the same, we are still trying to accomplish the same things, but how we go about it is different, and makes it more fun and challenging for each of us.

All I'm saying is that if the community doesn't step up, things will either stagnet like they are now, or get worst.

[FALCONWING]

Well the BoPs are what they are...they have fun together and they have been together for close to 11 years and continue to grow...if you can not fathom why then perhaps you should check us out or a similar squad...we are definitely not the only large coordinated squad around...

When the large arenas died and the arenas split and cap limits were in place many thought that would be the death of large squads...it was all over the BBS...

But a year+ later BoPs and other large squads are doing very well...what the arena/cap limit killed were the medium/small squads...in a small map with concentrated fights small/medium squads cant get much done...what i am seeing since the reinstatement of the large maps is a lot of small "hoarding" and i think it is more fun for all...

The small maps also allowed what i call "Pick squads" (come in with e/alt and hover with wingmen on the periphery of a fight) to fluorish as you were limited as to what bases to fight at....with a large map you can attack a different base and shift the fight...your not stuck at certain bottlenecks (killing fields if you will)

The one thing i wish hitech had not changed was the number of barracks...one could always stop a "horde" in its tracks with a few guys porking...this is not possible now and porking has become a lost art as it takes 4-5 guys flying together to have success and i understand that frustration.

[E25280]

Originally posted by FALCONWING
The one thing i wish hitech had not changed was the number of barracks...one could always stop a "horde" in its tracks with a few guys porking...this is not possible now and porking has become a lost art as it takes 4-5 guys flying together to have success and i understand that frustration.

That's kind of funny.  I like the additional barracks for just the same reason -- it requires a couple of people flying as a team to pork a base now instead of a lone wolf doing it himself.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by crockett
I proved a point? That I won't let you BnZ me when I'm taking off. lol is that the only way you can get a kill these days?

Crockett, unless Ack-Ack has lost control of his arms and using his mouth to control that twin engine ugly, he is one of the last guys I'd expect to waste his time BnZ airfields.

I've encountered Ack-Ack many occasions over the past years and everytime it's always been a great fight whether with a E advantage or not. He flies his ugly to it's strengths over it's opponents just as I would fly mine.  Infact I think it's rare that I've tagged him 1v1 it's often been when he's been busy and I've nailed him flying through the furball in a Pony.

Often one might extend further then you might think necessary, but it's not to maintain E advantage over you, it's to maintain E advantage over the next two or three spitdweebs that are likely to turn up after your back in the tower.

Question is unless you have some sort of hardon for old wood. What were you doing in a Hur1? That thing is ***'d from the moment you roll no matter what you encounter.


...-Gixer

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Gixer

What were you doing in a Hur1? That thing is ***'d from the moment you roll no matter what you encounter.

As long as people continue to think that, I'll get my kills in a Hurri I

[Gixer]

Funny, some Goon pilots have the same mentality.


...-Gixer

[crockett]

Originally posted by Gixer
Crockett, unless Ack-Ack has lost control of his arms and using his mouth to control that twin engine ugly, he is one of the last guys I'd expect to waste his time BnZ airfields.

I've encountered Ack-Ack many occasions over the past years and everytime it's always been a great fight whether with a E advantage or not. He flies his ugly to it's strengths over it's opponents just as I would fly mine.  Infact I think it's rare that I've tagged him 1v1 it's often been when he's been busy and I've nailed him flying through the furball in a Pony.

Often one might extend further then you might think necessary, but it's not to maintain E advantage over you, it's to maintain E advantage over the next two or three spitdweebs that are likely to turn up after your back in the tower.

Question is unless you have some sort of hardon for old wood. What were you doing in a Hur1? That thing is ***'d from the moment you roll no matter what you encounter.


...-Gixer

Na we were alone, wasn't anyone close, it was pretty much 1 on 1 on equal term until he went off to get an alt advantage. It was the only time I've ever met him at equal alt which is the reason I remember it.

but enough of that.. I just hoped for a good fight and was disappointed.

In reguards to a Huri 1 it's a great fighter if you know how to fly it. I'll fly it against anyone in what ever plane they want to fly. I've taken on my fair share of good sticks in all kinds of other planes and come out on top with a Huri 1.  

It's a great little dog fighter, however not much it's going to do against guys that do nothing but BnZ it just doesn't have the power for that kinda fight if they have alt on you. Other than that, it's a challenge and a fun little plane to fly.

[crockett]

Originally posted by Gixer
Funny, some Goon pilots have the same mentality.


...-Gixer

Well I'll fight yea any time in my Hurri 1. You can fly anything yea want  

You might kill me but I'll put up a good fight.