Author Topic: Video Card Help (Read 1322 times)

soda72 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 19, 2007, 11:21:27 PM »

Here is the AGP specs...

http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_AGP.html

Looks like AGP2.0 has been out for a while...

Accelerated Graphics Port Interface Specification; Revision 1.0 1996
Accelerated Graphics Port Interface Specification; Revision 2.0 1998
Accelerated Graphics Port Interface Specification; Revision 3.0 2002

Do you know what type of MB it is? Did the PC come with a MB manual?

Larry · « **Reply #16 on:** November 19, 2007, 11:28:21 PM »

Soda it might have but I dont have any thing that came with the computer.

soda72 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 19, 2007, 11:41:26 PM »

If you don't have a manual there may be something on the MB itself that will identify what chipset it is using...

If you bought your PC 5 years ago it's a good chance that it's at least using AGP 2.0... But since AGP 3.0 has been out since 2002, and the Video card you obtained has been out for about a year or two.. one has to wonder whether or not it will only work with AGP 3.0 even though they say it should work with AGP 2.0....

If you can get info on your current Motherboard you should be able to find out if it's using AGP 3.0 or AGP2.0, If you find out it's using AGP1.0 that would also explain the problem as well....

Larry · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2007, 12:04:54 AM »

I looked at my Service Tag from Dell here is everything that was on it when I bought it. (Note most of the specs have changed)

System Type: Dimension 4600
Ship Date: 10/16/2003
Dell IBU: Americas

PROCESSOR..., 80532, 2.4G, 512K, 533, SOCKET N..., DECISION ONE...
KEYBOARD..., 104, UNITED STATES..., SILITEK..., LOW COST..., MIDNIGHT GRAY...
KIT..., MOUSE..., PERSONAL SYSTEM 2..., S69, LOGITECH...
DUAL IN-LINE MEMORY MODULE..., 128, 333M, 16X64, 8K, 184
DIGITAL VIDEO DISK DRIVE..., 680M, 16, I, 5.25" FORM FACTOR..., SD616T, REVISION..., MIDNIGHT GRAY...
MODEM..., V92, INTERNAL..., DATA FAX..., SOFT, DON JULIO..., AMF
KIT..., SPEAKER..., 120V, ADA215, NMB..., SHIP IN BOX...
CARD (CIRCUIT)..., GRAPHICS..., 64MB, NV18, DIMENSION...
HARD DRIVE..., 40G, I, 7.2K, 60G/P, HIT-VAN2
KIT..., SOFTWARE..., WP-PRDCT-STE11, ENGLAND/ENGLISH...
KIT..., SOFTWARE..., QIKN-NWUSR-ED-2K2, ENGLAND/ENGLISH...
KIT..., SOFTWARE..., BRTNCA2K3, ENGLAND/ENGLISH...
KIT..., SOFTWARE..., OVERPACK..., WXPHSP1A, COMPACT DISKETTE W/DOCUMENTATION..., ENGLAND/ENGLISH...
KIT..., DOCUMENTATON ON FLOPPY DISK..., SOFTWARE..., DIGITAL VIDEO DISK DRIVE..., CYBERLINK..., 4.13C
DISPLAY..., FLAT PANEL DISPLAY..., 17, DUAL..., E171FPB, MIDNIGHT GRAY..., DELL AMERICAS ORGANIZATION...

soda72 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 20, 2007, 12:23:13 AM »

Does your graphics card look like this?

http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Dell-Dell-nVidia-NV18-DIM-64MB-AGP-Graphics-Card

It's listed as an AGP 8X which would mean it supports the AGP 3.0 specs...

Your Ship Date: 10/16/2003 is also after the AGP3.0 spec

[EDIT]

so were back to power supply....

Unless the card is broken,

Larry · « **Reply #20 on:** November 20, 2007, 12:28:19 AM »

Yea thats the one that came with the computer. Im running with a GeForce 6200 now.

soda72 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 20, 2007, 12:39:24 AM »

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CPU with processor speed of 700MHz or higher. 128MB of RAM. CD or DVD-ROM drive. An available AGP 2.0 slot or higher. 35MB available hard disk space (50MB for full installation). Microsoft Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP, NT4.0 with service pack 5 or 6. A minimum 400W system power supply (with 12V current rating of 20A or more). An AGP compliant motherboard. Some motherboards violate the AGP. specification and therefore this card may not physically fit in some systems. An available hard disk drive power dongle (smaller floppy disk drive connector is not sufficient).

Is your new power supply with 12V current rating of 20A or more?

Larry · « **Reply #22 on:** November 20, 2007, 12:48:17 AM »

Its this one.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Server_Network/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=A0687700

humble · « **Reply #23 on:** November 20, 2007, 08:51:43 AM »

Doesnt show the power distribution under specs. Since you said its a 385W PS I'd guess its probably a 16@ 12v rail, maybe 18@'s. Regardless its a pretty poor PS even for that money. Anytime you dont have a breakdown of efficiency and distribution you need to run the other way.

You'll need to look on the PS itself for a breakdown. From whats here I'd agree either you have a PS issue or a defective card...

Larry · « **Reply #24 on:** November 23, 2007, 08:50:10 AM »

So what power suppy do you guys think I should get?

Kev367th · « **Reply #25 on:** November 23, 2007, 08:56:47 AM »

Try this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194003#spec

Had no problems running my 7800GS when I had it, also runs my 8800 without a problem.

Big plus is the dual +12v rails @ 22 amps each.

Larry · « **Reply #26 on:** November 23, 2007, 10:28:17 PM »

My 7800GS is an AGP card will it have the 4pin connector it power it?

Kev367th · « **Reply #27 on:** November 24, 2007, 03:04:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Larry
My 7800GS is an AGP card will it have the 4pin connector it power it?

http://www.enermax.co.uk/uploads/tx_waiproducts/liberty_manual_multilanguage_09.pdf

Try looking at its manual, it has EVERYTHING.

Larry · « **Reply #28 on:** November 29, 2007, 09:26:55 PM »

Got the new 500W power supply and it still doesnt work.

Krusty · « **Reply #29 on:** November 30, 2007, 09:47:49 AM »

AGP 2.0 means anything above AGP 2x port, and EVERYthing has at least 4x these days. You need to see if you have 4x or 8x, though.

According to this:
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4600/en/4600/sm/specs.htm#1084976

You've got an 8x AGP port.

The card is an 8x card. So it technically should work.

Then perhaps it's not a card/mobo issue.

-make sure the card is fully seated.

-make sure the card is fully powered. There is a small 4-pin MOLEX plug at the rear end of the card.

It's on the right-most side of that picture, past the heat sink. You need to plug a hard-drive style plug from your PSU into this. Now, these HD plugs often give you multiple plugs per strand of wire. Don't use the one that's already got your HD and/or CD-ROMs plugged into it. Use another strand from the PSU that has none of the other plugs used, and then don't use them later. In other words, only use that line for the video card.

- one link I found on google says it has integrated video. Plug your monitor into the integrated video again, and see if THAT gives you something. Restart your computer, go to the BIOS, and set the video preference to AGP, or disable the on-board video, or find the proper setting to tell it which video card you want to use. This can be tricky because I don't know how your BIOS is set up and you'll have to look for the proper wording on your menus.