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Offline JB88

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« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2007, 08:26:09 PM »
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That one was just as bad....  in fact it reminds me of how TRL was done..


better get off the crackpipe bro...it's one of the greats!
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« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2007, 08:29:07 PM »
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The Thin Red line was a classic. It does however suffer from being a bit to cerebral and many of the simpleminded simply dont get it. Which is probably why we get some many crap movies out of Hollywood.

                      The TRL wasnt exactly a war movie. It was a study about good an evil in men and the utter hopelessness of the individual in society.

                         "War doesnt en-noble men". "It turns them into dogs".
This and Aquashrimp's post are the only two posts in the first two pages, that "get it".

TRL was NOT a "war movie", it was an "anti war movie/book".   I've read it, and seen em both.
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« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2007, 08:32:00 PM »
I'm pretty sure I got it. I think I even hinted I got it. I just didn't find the movie particularly well done. Coulda been better.

Saving Private Ryan was.

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« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2007, 08:37:41 PM »
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This and Aquashrimp's post are the only two posts in the first two pages, that "get it".

TRL was NOT a "war movie", it was an "anti war movie/book".   I've read it, and seen em both.



What difference does it make what the overriding theme was when you don't care what happens to the characters?

It could be a war movie, an anti-war movie, a comedy, a horror flick or a documentary, the point is, the execution was such that the characters are unsympathetic, and the plot unengaging--at least in that was my issue with TRL.

There are plenty of other anti-war movies, some that I mentioned earlier, that had no trouble keeping the audience captivated. Discouraged and sometimes disgusted, but still captivated.
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« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2007, 09:11:54 PM »
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better get off the crackpipe bro...it's one of the greats!


HA,

Bad acting, a different storyline from one scene to the next ,and just plain boring...  Makes it one of the worst war movies of all time...



some of my fav's---------
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930 film)
The Red Badge of Courage (1951 film)
The Young Lions(1958 film)
To Hell and Back(1955)
platoon(1986 film)
Saving Private Ryan(1998 film)
Windtalkers( 2002 film)
Midway(film 1976)
They Were Expendable(film 1945)
Back to Bataan (film 1945)
In Harms Way(film 1965)
The Bridge on the River Kwai (film 1957)
Mister Roberts (film 1955)
PT 109 (film 1963)
Sands of Iwo Jima (film 1949)
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« Reply #65 on: November 18, 2007, 09:14:28 PM »
"War" movie .... Sand Pebbles. :aok
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« Reply #66 on: November 18, 2007, 11:26:35 PM »
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Enemy at the Gates, the movie, failed miserably to capture the book. They turned the movie in to a @#$@#$ love story, which is typical, I suppose


Agreed.  It is one heckuva book.  The movie covered about a page and a half of the book.  it could have been lot more.

As for war movies.

"Battleground".    Still at the top of my list.  Band of Brothers long before Band of Brothers.
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« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2007, 12:16:12 AM »
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and with RPM being the resident expert on that topic I'd guess that inarguably it must have been an awful film.
This from someone famous for swallowing large objects...
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« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2007, 01:47:57 AM »
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HA,

Bad acting, a different storyline from one scene to the next ,and just plain boring...  Makes it one of the worst war movies of all time...



some of my fav's---------
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930 film)
The Red Badge of Courage (1951 film)
The Young Lions(1958 film)
To Hell and Back(1955)
platoon(1986 film)
Saving Private Ryan(1998 film)
Windtalkers( 2002 film)
Midway(film 1976)
They Were Expendable(film 1945)
Back to Bataan (film 1945)
In Harms Way(film 1965)
The Bridge on the River Kwai (film 1957)
Mister Roberts (film 1955)
PT 109 (film 1963)
Sands of Iwo Jima (film 1949)


:huh

that you put windtalkers on there...and then you put sands of iwo jima at the bottom without even bothering to add full metal jacket or hamburger hill, only goes to show that you are clearly on the crack pipe.  if not crack...it's gotta be at least a class three.  

hell, why don't you just add pearl harbor to the list while yer at it?

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« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2007, 03:11:08 AM »
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:huh
hell, why don't you just add pearl harbor to the list while yer at it?
Dude, where's my P-40?!?!
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« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2007, 06:13:05 AM »
"When Trumpets Fade" really is a good movie.  I believe it was made by HBO.  It shows the disastrous Hurtgen Forest campaign fought by the U.S.
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« Reply #71 on: November 19, 2007, 06:55:18 AM »
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"When Trumpets Fade" really is a good movie.  I believe it was made by HBO.  It shows the disastrous Hurtgen Forest campaign fought by the U.S.


Yup, it was a good movie.
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« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2007, 07:13:16 AM »
One of my favorites is an overlooked classic, Decision Before Dawn. It is the story of german POW's recruited to be spies. Very good film.
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« Reply #73 on: November 19, 2007, 08:00:39 AM »
I think anyone who thought TRL was just to hip and smart for most of us to get is fooling himself.

I got it..  it was a waste of talent and production values.   I did not read the book beforehand..  had I read it....that may have helped the movie but as a standalone.. it was a weepy, disjointed mess.  

It has some high points.  the attack on the pillbox and the attack on the camp/hospital.

cerebral does not mean unrealistic to make a point..  trying to make it look like some tropical paradise was being destroyed by the war gods.

I had just read Eric Bergeruds excellent "touched with fire" about the land war in the pacific and that may have helped turn most of the scenes in TRL into groaners for me and made me less sympathetic to in the hospital scene.  

Letters from Iwo suffered from the same disconnect to make it's point and that made it less of a movie because of it also but.. TRL was worse because it didn't even seem to take place in battlegrounds of the pacific.. at least letters showed what a hell hole Iwo was.

It is hard to connect the stories of the men who fought in the Pacific with most of the movie TRL

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« Reply #74 on: November 19, 2007, 08:07:25 AM »
I thought "Letters" was fine. Pretty much. Well, Flags too, considering that it is after all made after the book, - which I read before and didn't enjoy particularly much. (Maybe the first time I though that the film was better than the book, but I cannot deny that my opinion here is somewhat skewed :D)
TRL,  - I remember it as being too long, but a very beautiful movie. Nice camera. Wasn't all that happy with the whole plot though...
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