Author Topic: Stem Cell Breakthrough! (Read 2286 times)

Donzo · « **Reply #30 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:13:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
Get over yourself Donzo.

If somebody's acting like a religious wacko, a religious wacko is what that person's gonna get called. Plain and simple. If you get offended, you're probably one yourself and I have no sympathy.

So by your definition anyone that would say ANYTHING against this new breakthrough would be considered a religious wacko?

You need to get over yourself, Neubob.

You started this thread with a preconceived notion that people with religious convictions would somehow object to this breakthrough.

So I assume your intent was to get people who think the way you do to jump on your little band wagon. Instead you were greeted with simple challenges to your feeble attempt to incite a "religious wacko" bashing thread. Pathetically you attempted to gloss over it as just posting for dicsussion sake.

Sad, really.

Neubob · « **Reply #31 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:15:11 PM »

You're unstable, donzo. You're having this fight with yourself.

moot · « **Reply #32 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:17:58 PM »

He's not unstable, but he can read your mind!

Donzo · « **Reply #33 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:20:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
You're unstable, donzo. You're having this fight with yourself.

Really, how so?

Neubob · « **Reply #34 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:23:18 PM »

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Originally posted by moot
He's not unstable, but he can read your mind!

If I'd wanted to start controversy with every religious person on this board I would have started a thread about whether it should be legal to put up '**** Jesus' billboards on the highways. A compelling 1st amendment issue.

I didn't do that. If he feels the need to get offended on the behalf of everyone, it's his life and his time.

Donzo · « **Reply #35 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:28:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
If I'd wanted to start controversy with every religious person on this board I would have started a thread about whether it should be legal to put up '**** Jesus' billboards on the highways. A compelling 1st amendment issue.

I didn't do that. If he feels the need to get offended on the behalf of everyone, it's his life and his time.

Neubob,

It comes back to your initial post that singled out what you call "religious wacko's". Why you had to single out a group of people (as defined by you) is a puzzle to me if you only wanted a healthy discussion on the subject.

moot · « **Reply #36 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:28:19 PM »

He won't give up till you've gone PC and added a disclaimer to your original post that specifies what you meant to say applies to non-religious scientific wackos, too. Otherwise it just isn't fair.

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #37 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:31:40 PM »

i thought i raised some good points on the last page, as usual..

wth is this all about now? another PC vs non-PC wankfest?

Neubob · « **Reply #38 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:39:32 PM »

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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
wth is this all about now? another PC vs non-PC wankfest?

Pretty much

AKIron · « **Reply #39 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:56:17 PM »

I'll play the game you mentioned. It's not fair that developed countries are able to prolong their lives while poor countries continue to suffer. The UN must take control of this research to ensure longer lives for all. Religous wackiness enough for ya?

Neubob · « **Reply #40 on:** November 20, 2007, 04:03:04 PM »

That's an interesting point of view, Iron, and a whole new thread.

AKIron · « **Reply #41 on:** November 20, 2007, 04:05:05 PM »

It fits here I think. Secular humanism is a religion and while perhaps it won't be opposed to stem cell research it may very well speak out for equality of application.

Viking · « **Reply #42 on:** November 20, 2007, 04:12:30 PM »

Secular humanism does not mean socialism. I'm a humanist and I do not agree with your hypotheses AKIron. And humanism is not a religion ... way of life yes, but not a religion. In this context a belief in the supernatural is a qualifier for the word "religion" in the English language. However some humanists are almost religious in their pursuit and devotion to the humanist ideal ... but that is a different issue. Most of those people are atheists rather than humanists.

Neubob · « **Reply #43 on:** November 20, 2007, 04:16:44 PM »

Ok...

Doing what you say would deprive certain people of a potential benefit simply because everyone cannot benefit from it. There will never be complete equality. Certain things will always be much more accessible to a few, while inaccessible to most. So what do we do? Control things to make sure that everyone is rationed out the same amount? That's just not practical...The quest for these privileges is one of the driving forces of competition and innovation.

AKIron · « **Reply #44 on:** November 20, 2007, 04:17:56 PM »

Certainly you are entitled to your opinion Viking. However, the US Supreme Court disagrees.

http://members.aol.com/TestOath/Torcaso.htm

Footnote 11] Among religions in this country which do not teach what would generally be considered a belief in the existence of God are Buddhism, Taoism, Ethical Culture, Secular Humanism and others. See Washington Ethical Society v. District of Columbia, 101 U.S. App. D.C. 371, 249 F.2d 127; Fellowship of Humanity v. County of Alameda, 153 Cal. App. 2d 673, 315 P.2d 394; II Encyclopaedia of the Social Sciences 293; 4 Encyclopaedia Britannica (1957 ed.) 325-327; 21 id., at 797; Archer, Faiths Men Live By (2d ed. revised by Purinton), 120-138, 254-313; 1961 World Almanac 695, 712; Year Book of American Churches for 1961, at 29, 47.