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Offline Arlo

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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2007, 11:06:18 PM »
Saw this quote somewhere:

"If Satan ever laughs, it must be at hypocrits (minus the e); they are the greatest dupes he has." - Charles Colton

And more than just science draws conclusions based on evidence, not on a show of hands.


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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2007, 11:14:29 PM »
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How long until someone shoots one of those suckers down?  It'll be interesting if they try to turn that into a terrorist offense.  IMHO it shouldn't be any worse than (for example) taking a bat to an unoccupied cop car...  Yea it's anti-social, but punishment really needs to fit the crime and taking out a surveilance drone isn't really much different than knocking a red light camera off of a stoplight.  Except a bit more expensive...

But you just know that if/when it happens, they'll try to make a huge deal out of it or try to tie it to national security.


Eagle,

I really hope you were drunk when you posted that. You should have some idea about what would be wrong about shooting at an aircraft, manned or not, especially in an urban area. The laws, Federal and local, that would violate would carry some severe penalties and significant danger to others. Perhaps if someone decided to fire on your aircraft because they don't like the noise or the sight of another aircraft over their heads you might feel differently.

There was a nice spin to the story here about the capabilities of the drone. Frankly it has less capability than the usual manned helicopter has other than possibly loiter time. It won't be able to fly from scene to scene as fast as a helicopter can now and certainly can't have the flexibility if it needs the support vehicles in sight. I'd really think that the helicopter is a far more valuable tool than a drone. If there is a problem in flight they will most definitely have more difficulty in picking a spot to land than a helicopter as well.

Frankly it looks like a way to save some money over a helicopter patrol and I don't think it's cost savings out weighs the lack of capability it has vs a manned copter.
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2007, 12:26:08 AM »
If they want to replace helicopter's on a one for one basis with these things to save money, I think thats a great idea.

I just don't want to see dozens of these things flying around my County because they are so cheap.

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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2007, 04:50:42 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2007, 05:18:11 AM »
Anything can fly with enough power behind it, just look at the F-4's...:D
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2007, 07:45:13 AM »
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Originally posted by Arlo
Saw this quote somewhere:

"If Satan ever laughs, it must be at hypocrits (minus the e); they are the greatest dupes he has." - Charles Colton

And more than just science draws conclusions based on evidence, not on a show of hands.


Hmmmmm .....

Smoking mushrooms ..... cloud ..... heh

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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2007, 07:55:25 AM »
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Yep its just the beginning of the end of all civil liberty's and the beginning of a true tyranny in our government. BTW isn't Texas run by Democrats now and isn't the liberal US media pushing for a left wing, commie lover female to be President and then call for a true elimination of all freedom for the members of the proletariat????

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                            How is a little helicopter flying around an "end to civil liberties"? Why would anyone shoot one down? And why should any imbecile who touched off a rifle in a city, shooting at a drone, get off easy by the courts?
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2007, 08:20:38 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2007, 08:44:24 AM »
The news group comes off as being offended becuase they weren't invited to watch the demo.  The moment news orgs are offered a chance to buy drones to cover their news stories it's going to be ok to have them...

So what do these drones do that the police aren't already capable of doing in their existing helicopters?  fly more hours? more units in the air? better surveillance?

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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2007, 09:14:25 AM »
I wouldn't get too upset about it's capabilities... they can't even catch guys burying IED's in Iraq with em.

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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2007, 09:56:50 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2007, 10:31:54 AM »
If it's used like a normal police helicopter is used, then I see no big deal with them really. However if they start using them for general surveillance then I do see a problem with it.
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2007, 10:39:33 AM »
Don't you see the irony in what I posted??? Or are you just trying to cover up the shadow government that was created when Jeb Bush left office in Florida?????

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How is a little helicopter flying around an "end to civil liberties"? Why would anyone shoot one down? And why should any imbecile who touched off a rifle in a city, shooting at a drone, get off easy by the courts?
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2007, 10:58:03 AM »
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If it's used like a normal police helicopter is used, then I see no big deal with them really. However if they start using them for general surveillance then I do see a problem with it.


And just what do you think they do in the helicopters??? Uh general surveillance. 90% of the time they are up cruising around, they are just looking at anything and everything. Same thing with a drone. Keep a watchfull eye out and if you see something interesting go in for a closer look.

I suppose you think it's an invasion of privacy for police officers to just tool around in their cars looking at people too.
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2007, 01:33:59 PM »
However if they start using them for general surveillance then I do see a problem with it.
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yeah?  like going to prison perhaps?

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