Tricky landings

[Xasthur]

This was a result of my dear old friend, the windows key, and a spiking joystick.

Both wings pulled off with full fuel still onboard.

[Gianlupo]

Archaius, how the hell did you manage to land that 190 without elevators and rudder? I've tried myself to land a Ki84 without elevators, working with throttle to control pitch, but I never got to have the fine control required to land it... so, how THE HELL did you do that???? (if you have the movie, please, post it)

[Xasthur]

It was mostly dumb luck. It took me a few aborted 'mock' approaches at a forgiving altitude to figure out how I was going to do it.

Once I figured out what sort of glide slope I was working with I just lucked it in.

Flaps are a big part of it, having full flaps made it much easier but it's all in the throttle control. Hammering it on and engaging WEP.... then easing it off a bit... and so on.

Try lowering the RPM too if you've got enough speed to maintain the glide, that should help you flatten out your approach a bit.

I just aimed for the end of the runway and hoped for the best.

I'll see if I can find the film. It's burried somewhere.

[Spikes]

Well, I have to dig up the screenie, but:

I was on a bombing mission in 17s. It was way back, on the map with all the islands (LOTS of them) And a TT in the middle.

I took off from a 7K base and I leveled out 7K all the way to the target. I bombed the base. I pulled up and ripped my wing tips off. I flew 3 sectors to the same 7K base and landed.

Will have to look up the screenie.

EDIT: Alrighty:

[Gianlupo]

Originally posted by Xasthur
It was mostly dumb luck. It took me a few aborted 'mock' approaches at a forgiving altitude to figure out how I was going to do it.

Once I figured out what sort of glide slope I was working with I just lucked it in.

Flaps are a big part of it, having full flaps made it much easier but it's all in the throttle control. Hammering it on and engaging WEP.... then easing it off a bit... and so on.

Try lowering the RPM too if you've got enough speed to maintain the glide, that should help you flatten out your approach a bit.

I just aimed for the end of the runway and hoped for the best.

I'll see if I can find the film. It's burried somewhere.

Well, next time I'll try it, I'll make human sacrifices to the Goddess of Luck: she never really loved me.

Thanks for the answer, sir.

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Xasthur
I was just knocking around in the MA and took a bit of damage...

I ended up losing my rudder and both elevators.

I managed to egress to another field.

This probably the most fun I've had trying to get a bird down.

Sorting out approach speeds:


I struggled to get my flaps out and gear down due to the low speed deployment on the 190s:


On my first approach I nailed it... It wasn't even a rough landing:



Post your screenies of tough landings due to battle damage or whatever, here.

done the same in 17s once (a bit easier i guess)... was at 19k, at max speed when a 190 popped my tail well good before loosing a wing to my defensive fire.

due to speed my plane instantly started going up and i had to cut to stop it seasawing... I dumped my ord, which landed half a tile away from target, not bad considering my damage lol... played with the plane as you said on the way back to the field to learn how it would react.

Found a pefect 1000fpm decent speed, and kept it at that untill long final when i started playing with the flaps. Worked out great, and landed with all 3 drones (why didnt i bail out i hear u say...well the plane was still flying )

[Xasthur]

Awesome job.

Getting beaten up planes home is almost as fun as a good fight, I reckon, so I always try to get back home.

[Xasthur]

I could have sworn that someone asked me to show a 109 landing with half a wing missing somewhere.

I jumped offline for a bit and rammed the B 24 to get the damage

Not only did it take my wing off but rudder and tailwheel too.

Unfortunately, I forgot to put my gear down and belly-landed it before I realised but for all intents and purposes this does the same job. Had the gear been down it would have been a good landing on concrete.







Flaps are the key, in my opinion, when landing a clip-winged 109. At your earliest oppertunity get your flaps out 100% (try and climb to lower your airspeed rather than scrubbing it all with the rudder and decreased throttle). This will give you far greater stability and seems to cancel out some of the lift lost on the left side (It probably shouldn't make a difference as the flaps on the other side are creating the same amount of lift on a functional wing, but I'm not complaining).

Don't forget to trim your aileron right out to help counter the wing damage ('M' and ',' if i'm not mistaken)

Rudder trim can also help too, if your rudder is still attached.

Now that you've got your flaps out, you can spot your landing and get your approach happening, come in nice and slow so as to keep your flaps down, but not so slow that you're riding the stall.

Use your rudder, if applicable, to help keep it steady and go easy on the throttle.... then you should have no trouble getting the 109 down.

[68ptdapp]

Here is one I just did no too long ago

bent prop and tore wing off. but successful landing
here is one of squaddie landing on carrier

[Spikes]

Originally posted by 68ptdapp

hehehe...that one's great!