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Offline pipz

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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2007, 04:06:14 PM »
Thank you very much Rich.And your rite this game is boat loads of fun.I am working on a Ki-84 model at the moment.You guys should be seeing it within a few weeks.

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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2007, 04:26:42 PM »
How do you paint the lines so well on the canopy?

I have a handful of models on my son's ceiling, but I gave up on painting the canopy lines.

Also, how did you get the faded look?  It's almost as if you applied a coat on top of the final paint job.

p.s. Greebo makes the best skins!
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2007, 05:34:59 PM »
Yes I agree Greebo does and excellent job on the skins.

For the canopy I use "bare metal foil".Basicly its real thin tin foil that has a sticky back.You can get it at Squadron.com ,if your in Europe Hannants prolly has it as well or try Hobby Link Japan.Basicly ya peel some of this foil off and press it down on the canopy.Once ya rub it on there real good you will be able to see the outlines of the canopy braces.I use  my modeling knife to cut the outlines and peel away the parts that will need paint.That leaves the "glass" portions covered.Just spray your canopy and when dry peel the foil off.

As for the faded part I do this differently every time I think.I may lightin the base color of the plane and thin it down realy good and spray a mist over the model.You can thin down white or a realy light grey and that will give it a worn effect as well.Usualy after I do that and chip and wear the paint I will then spray the model with a mist of some realy thined down "dirt" color.

If ya cant find that foil or have any questions or what have ya feel free to PM me.Ill see if I can help out.

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2007, 06:18:24 PM »
Hey I'll remember Pipz!

Cause he SINGS almost as good as ME :rofl

That and he has been known to shoot at yours truly!

Which is IMHO TOTALLY Anti-social behavior!:O :t :noid :noid
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2007, 07:15:14 PM »
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Hey I'll remember Pipz!

Cause he SINGS almost as good as ME :rofl

That and he has been known to shoot at yours truly!

Which is IMHO TOTALLY Anti-social behavior!:O :t :noid :noid


ALMOST AS GOOD????%^$%$@#&^%+(_&+)#...........Get ready for some more shootin!!!!!!!!! hehehhehehheheheheh

Wrag;)

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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2007, 01:19:55 AM »
just to get this straight:

you take white or light gray, add a lot of thinner to make it 'thin' and then apply over the model?

thanks for the tip on the foil.  I tried with clear tape with no success- it doesn't adhere well enough and I get bleeding through on the seams.
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2007, 01:20:32 AM »
do you apply the thin coat over the decals as well?
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2007, 05:38:58 AM »
I will paint and decal the model.Basicly It will look like a new plane at that point.So now you want to wear the whole thing down to make it look like its been working outside.
Now thin down the white or grey realy good.This makes it translucent so it doesnt spray on realy heavy like another coat of paint.I will then spray a mist of that over the model.Do this lightly in steps until ya have ya have it to the state of wear you are looking for.Usualy I wear down the top more than the bottom.The reason being the top sits in the sun all the time.
 Remember the decals reprisent painted on information that is going to wear just as much as the rest of the plane.So you build it as new and then wear it down from there.I tend to look at real world working items for hints on weathering.Such as Trucks,cars,fork lifts at work,trains.Have a look at something like that and see how it wears where oil leaks from where dirt builds up.

Tape was a good idea.I tried that as well but like you said it doesnt keep the paint out very well.The foil works much better.

Aslo a hint on decals.Paint your model then spray it with a gloss coat.Then apply your decals.The gloss coat keeps the transparent part of the decal from being seen.After the decal is applied you apply a flat or gloss coat over top of it to seal the decal.

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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2007, 11:25:22 AM »
Thanks for the tips Pipz.  That actually answers alot of the questions I had.

If I ever get a decent one built, I'll post a pic.

See ya,
Toonces
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2007, 12:41:53 PM »
They don't even have to be nice ones, Pipz is very kind when talking about other peoples models, and his has a ton of tips!

One of these days I'll have to finish that 38 I have almost done !:confused:

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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2007, 02:29:52 PM »
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Thanks Zap.You back in game?Havnt seen ya in some time.My playing hours are a bit shorter than they use to be and I am on at different times.Maybe I just been missin you?

Pipz


I just started back..I'll be in and out.  Work hours a little different but the cold weather has FINALLY shut the lawn care stuff down for winter.

Zap

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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2007, 03:57:34 PM »
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Thanks for the tips Pipz.  That actually answers alot of the questions I had.

If I ever get a decent one built, I'll post a pic.

See ya,
Toonces


Here ya go Toonces.This is a sturmgashutz or however ya spell it.I built this back in the early 90s.I keep it around for sentimental reasons....Pipz is an old softy aint he Anyway the point is ya gotta start somewhere.Its like anything else ya get better as ya learn.Im sure this tank isnt the "last word" in armor modeling heheheheh.So next time ya build something just post it.Im sure it will be appreciated.Im glad the tips helped.Like I said if ya need any info or tips or what have feel free to get in touch.

Pipz




Ok Ok heres a bonus picture:aok this is a Panzer IV I built around the same time.Thats not weathering ya see but dust from sitting around for 15 years.I think that is Hessler ridding on topPanzer force baby!!!!heheh


heres one I edited in.Beware the Renault!!!And watch out for that Konigstiger too heheh.I went and got these out of the basement.Built around the same time as the others
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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2007, 04:15:22 PM »
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They don't even have to be nice ones, Pipz is very kind when talking about other peoples models, and his has a ton of tips!

One of these days I'll have to finish that 38 I have almost done !:confused:


Thanks for that Fugi.Speaking of 38s I have been talkin about building one since I was in the 475th.I have an Academy 38J kit started with decals for Jay Robbins painted 38J."I cant recall its name" Jandina perhaps?Part of the hold up has been wether to do it as a bare metal aircraft or painted version.I can get decals for Robbins 38J that was bare metal as well and we have that skin in game.Ahhhh the decisons I have to make in life

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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2007, 04:17:21 PM »
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I just started back..I'll be in and out.  Work hours a little different but the cold weather has FINALLY shut the lawn care stuff down for winter.

Zap


Ill keep an eye out for ya ZAP.Perhaps we can wing up like in the old days:aok

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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2007, 05:00:26 PM »
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I remember the singing......... my ears are still bleeding  :)




I work with Pipz, and if you think his singing is bad on the game, you should hear him at work.....

:cry


As for the models..... The pics don't do them justice. When brings them to work to show me, they really are amazing the detail he puts into them....
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