Women with guns

[splitatom]

its the grany from goldfinger ahh run for your lives

[Tigeress]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
There's something about a woman with a gun in her hands that just turns me on. But, Ive always had a thing for strong woman.

Hi Rich,

I suppose it's personal taste. I have always been tagged as a strong woman. Some men are intimidated by it; some men try to dominate me in  spiteful mean-spirited ways because of it; and some men are attracted because of it; and some men go out of their way to enable me because of it.

Being a strong woman evokes expressed opinion by most everyone, in my experience.

By the way Rich, thank you for your service to our Country.

TIGERESS

[Tigeress]

Originally posted by KgB
Her name is Rosa Shanina,54 kills.Born 1924,Killed in action 01/28/1945 Eastern Prussia

She is a hero, no doubt, KgB.

to Rosa Shanina and all other females who fought in the Great Patriotic War for the USSR.

Fifty-four kills is quite a record.

TIGERESS

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by KgB
Her name is Rosa Shanina,54 kills.Born 1924,Killed in action 01/28/1945 Eastern Prussia

Interesting, hero, hottie and sad all at the same time. War is such a waste.

[Saxman]

Both of history's only two female fighter aces were also killed in action.

Personally, while I believe women have every right and ability to actively fight for their country, I HATE the thought of a woman's life placed in danger.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Interesting, hero, hottie and sad all at the same time. War is such a waste.

The problem was that if nazis won - she had no way to survive.

All Eastern Slavs were sentenced to total demolition, except 10% left as illiterate slaves.

[SIG220]

On top of everything else already mentioned:

Many Russian AA batteries were manned by women gunners.

A great many Russian medics serving in combat, were also women.   They dodged bullets just like everyone else, to carry wounded soldiers off the battlefield.

Regarding the Russian Air Force, I think the most fascinating all female unit was 588th Night Bomber Regiment, which the Germans nicknamed the "Night Witches"

They flew un-gunned, out-dated Polikarpov Po-2 Biplane attack bombers.  Because the planes were so inferior, the Regiment only flew at night, attacking forward German troop positions, and motorized columns on roads.  The women were know for their exceptional eyesight, in being able to spot targets at night.

They were also exceptionally brave.   Of the total 30 Gold Medals of the Hero of the Soviet Union ( Russia's equivalent to the Medal of Honor ) that were awarded to all Russian women during the war, 23 of them were awarded to women flying in this unit!!!   Most of the awards were also sadly posthumously given.  Their greatest hero was Maria Zeguelenko, who flew 3,260 combat missions, before being shot down.  It was estimated that she personally dropped 105,000 kilos of bombs on the Germans.

The women would often fly the entire night, sometimes making as many as 15 to 18 sorties in one night.  They often flew low to the ground, to avoid detection by German night fighters.  When they were detected and attacked by German fighters, they generally suffered very heavy losses.

If an all female squadron was ever developed here on Aces High, they would certainly be the most honored squad in history to emulate.

SIG 220

[KgB]

Originally posted by SIG220
On top of everything else already mentioned:

Many Russian AA batteries were manned by women gunners.

A great many Russian medics serving in combat, were also women.   They dodged bullets just like everyone else, to carry wounded soldiers off the battlefield.

Regarding the Russian Air Force, I think the most fascinating all female unit was 588th Night Bomber Regiment, which the Germans nicknamed the "Night Witches"

They flew un-gunned, out-dated Polikarpov Po-2 Biplane attack bombers.  Because the planes were so inferior, the Regiment only flew at night, attacking forward German troop positions, and motorized columns on roads.  The women were know for their exceptional eyesight, in being able to spot targets at night.

They were also exceptionally brave.   Of the total 30 Gold Medals of the Hero of the Soviet Union ( Russia's equivalent to the Medal of Honor ) that were awarded to all Russian women during the war, 23 of them were awarded to women flying in this unit!!!   Most of the awards were also sadly posthumously given.  Their greatest hero was Maria Zeguelenko, who flew 3,260 combat missions, before being shot down.  It was estimated that she personally dropped 105,000 kilos of bombs on the Germans.

The women would often fly the entire night, sometimes making as many as 15 to 18 sorties in one night.  They often flew low to the ground, to avoid detection by German night fighters.  When they were detected and attacked by German fighters, they generally suffered very heavy losses.

If an all female squadron was ever developed here on Aces High, they would certainly be the most honored squad in history to emulate.

SIG 220

Check it out.Its about women in ww2.In that scene they shoot  down german aircraft and then bailed out pilot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST0mq3pdl8E

[moot]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Interesting, hero, hottie and sad all at the same time. War is such a waste.

"Th'earths face is but thy Table; there are set
Plants, cattell, men, dishes for Death to eate.
In a rude hunger now hee millions drawes
Into his bloody, or plaguy, or sterv'd jawes."

[Viking]

Originally posted by KgB
Check it out.Its about women in ww2.In that scene they shoot  down german aircraft and then bailed out pilot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST0mq3pdl8E

You mean they shot the pilot in his chute? I didn't see it like that; to me it looks as if the pilot was on fire (presumably after bailing from a burning plane). The women looked sad that they had killed him while watching him fall.

[croduh]

Come to Croatia;)

[SIG220]

Originally posted by Viking
You mean they shot the pilot in his chute? I didn't see it like that; to me it looks as if the pilot was on fire (presumably after bailing from a burning plane). The women looked sad that they had killed him while watching him fall.

You actually have to watch the previous episode video ( there is a link to it on the right side of the page ), which actually shows most of the battle.  The women shoot down the plane, and the pilot is then shown coming down in his parachute.

The women then re-aim the AA gun, and open fire again.  I found it most odd that they split the video segments right in the middle of a battle like that.  You get a much better picture of the operation of the AA gun, not to mention the actual battle, if you look at that previous episode too.

But tell me, do you actually think that real war is not like that?   Chivalry in warfare died along with the millions who perished in the first World War.

Soldiers become brutalized by seeing atrocities committed against their own comrades.   It is only human nature, to then want to retaliate in kind.

The recent WWII documentary THE WAR, by historian Ken Burns ( which was released here in the USA 3 months ago ), documented such scenarios in America's fighting forces in that war.   In one case, during the brutal battle for Guadalcanal, a Marine battalion found a number of their men horribly mutilated and disfigured by the Japanese.   I cannot begin to describe the gross and inhuman disfigurements they did to their dead bodies.

Their commander then explained to his men that they would no longer take any Japanese prisoners.   And the unit never did after that day.

In another story, from the Battle for the Bulge, an American Army commander was upset over the recent killing of American POW's from their division by Waffen SS soldiers near the infamous town of Malmedy.   The news of this atrocity spread like wildfire among the American units.  

Consequently, when his own unit later captured over a dozen Germans, the officer ordered them all to be summarily shot, despite the protests of several of his men.

War is ugly.  It is hell on earth.

SIG 220