The End(fullscreen)

[Hajo]

RedTop....no....we aren't always stoned.


I remember when the Doors first hit came out  Light my Fire.

Was hooked on'em ever since.  I have every one of their albums on Vinyl.


Grandpa was a Sailorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rr he put me on his kneeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

(From Land Ho!  Album Morrison Hotel)

BTW.......When the musics over..........turn out the lights!

[MajWoody]

When I woke up this morning I got myself a beer.

[sunfan1121]

Originally posted by nirvana
Eh?  The Doors are awesome, greatest hits are in my CD player currently.  Too young...I'm 18.

yup too young im 17

[Jackal1]

I'll tell you this...
No eternal reward will forgive us now
For wasting the dawn.

Back in those days everything was simpler and more confused
One summer night, going to the pier
I ran into two young girls
The blonde one was called Freedom
The dark one, Enterprise
We talked and they told me this story
Now listen to this...
I'll tell you about Texas radio and the big beat
Soft driven, slow and mad
Like some new language
Reaching your head with the cold, sudden fury of a divine messenger
Let me tell you about heartache and the loss of god
Wandering, wandering in hopless night
Out here in the perimeter there are no stars

Out here we is stoned
Immaculate.

[Thruster]

I read somewhere that Morrison considered himself to be first and foremost a poet, not a singer. I agree. I'm usually the last to kick over a sacred cow but I never got the Doors.

Over the years I have seen Manzerak and Krieger play out but always felt they were capitalizing on Morrison's legacy and not getting booked on the merits of their post Doors' careers.

Not to say I haven't tried. I grew up hearing how outstanding a group of musicians these guys were and how tragic Morrison's death was to the generation. But I never saw them as more than a mediocre rhythm section fronted by a marginally talented attention potato who happened to be at the right place at the right time.

Too many things were going on back then musically for the Doors to even qualify as a footnote in the History of Rock. I can't see them ever being more than a brief radio success followed by a quiet descent into obscurity had not The Paris Incident occurred.

Were it not for the corresponding advent of FM and the surge in demand for any new material, we probably never would have heard of them.

Cool video though, brings one back doesn't it? It's nice to see the 57 wasn't always a snare mic. Or is that a D-50?

[nirvana]

The Doors' psychedelic rock or acid rock is different to me than any other of the period, don't know why but it is.  It puts you into a state of being that may be equal to being under the influence of drugs.  Complete relaxation.

The may have been a mediocre group of musicians, but then aren't most bands who make it big?

[Thruster]

Originally posted by nirvana

The may have been a mediocre group of musicians, but then aren't most bands who make it big?

Define "big". I think the real major leaguers are pretty much all masters of their craft. I know modest players can cobble together fairly catchy tunes once and a while but not make a career out of it. How long were they a band? 3, 4 years maybe? They never got a chance for a sophomore slump.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Thruster
I read somewhere that Morrison considered himself to be first and foremost a poet, not a singer. I agree. I'm usually the last to kick over a sacred cow but I never got the Doors.

Over the years I have seen Manzerak and Krieger play out but always felt they were capitalizing on Morrison's legacy and not getting booked on the merits of their post Doors' careers.

Not to say I haven't tried. I grew up hearing how outstanding a group of musicians these guys were and how tragic Morrison's death was to the generation. But I never saw them as more than a mediocre rhythm section fronted by a marginally talented attention potato who happened to be at the right place at the right time.

Too many things were going on back then musically for the Doors to even qualify as a footnote in the History of Rock. I can't see them ever being more than a brief radio success followed by a quiet descent into obscurity had not The Paris Incident occurred.

Were it not for the corresponding advent of FM and the surge in demand for any new material, we probably never would have heard of them.

Cool video though, brings one back doesn't it? It's nice to see the 57 wasn't always a snare mic. Or is that a D-50?

Curious as to what your age is.

[Hajo]

Methinks lots' of young ones making comments about a group they did not grow up with.  So they have only limited knowledge of the time when the Doors were very very popular.  Not their fault...they just weren't here and have no basis to make an educated opinion.

Cream had only 3 members.  The Doors had four.  I guess the youngsters today think ya need 6 members at least with added pyrotechnics and the latest electronic equipment for effects and recording.  Had only Stereo then not Dolby



I am the Lizard King.......I can do anything.

[nirvana]

How many kids think vinyl records are a novelty item?  Remarkably my parents kept all their old vinyl, my dad even has his original turntable that still functions grandly.  It's kind of interesting listening to the old records with all the cracks and pops associated with them.

[RedTop]

Originally posted by nirvana
How many kids think vinyl records are a novelty item?  Remarkably my parents kept all their old vinyl, my dad even has his original turntable that still functions grandly.  It's kind of interesting listening to the old records with all the cracks and pops associated with them.

Reading this just aged me even more.

Thanks ALOT:furious

[Thruster]

Jackal, I'm 43. I remember My first L.P. was then the latest Beatles release, "Abbey Road", I also owned the Surfaris, Canned Heat, The New Christie Minstrals and a few others my brother left behind. I studied music performance in college, hosted a late night "New Music" show on a.m. radio, played my first "gig" at 14 (still in the '70s) and even ran monitors for a few of Iron Butterfly's last shows, since then I've run recording studios, recording schools, and worked with a few legends.

I'm pretty familiar with the history of rock, no guru mind you but I have a few chops.

Fact is, Morrison was musically, a hack. His band was made up of steady players, not virtuoso's. But they managed to briefly carve out a place in the hearts of the drug addled, musically confused generation that was the post Summer of Love scene.

The fact that the band gained popularity with a song that was a fair departure from their usual style should speak to the band's ability to maintain the creative streak that the true masters are obligated to uphold. Death has an interesting way of releasing a performer from that drudgery. If they check out at the top of the charts, or even near it, they become "legends" in spite of their deserved place as a footnote to the history of the genre.

Hajo, you mention the band's line up as if their grass roots, no frills approach somehow conveyed quality musicianship. I believe the Miami incident, the reptiles and the potential to witness a train wreck on stage were the main draws to a Doors show. I certainly wasn't one of Kreiger's amazing solos.

Of all the amazing stuff that was done back then, all the new ground that was explored, of all the amazing players that started out in that era, I just don't see how the Doors equate. I see them sharing the spotlight with the likes of Capt. Beefheart and Hot Tuna, not Fleetwood Mac, Aerosmith,  Pink Floyd, Carlos Santana.........

And if any of you need to get that old vinyl archived, I know a guy who does some amazing restoration. Once you get the noise out of the way, it's interesting to hear what was originally tracked. Remember the applause at the end of "Strange Days"?

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by SirLoin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbI5K0AzNHI

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THx!

one of the best bands EVER

[DiabloTX]

Originally posted by sunfan1121
yup too young im 17

If it's too old, you're too loud.

[DiabloTX]

Summer of '79.  I was 12.  One of my brother's had to go see an movie and convinced me to go with him.  I sat down in the theater seat, the lights went down, and this appeared on the screen.  

It blew my 12 year old fragile, eggshell mind...