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Offline SPKmes

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Just wondering
« on: December 09, 2007, 04:25:44 PM »
I'm pretty much new to this, however could somebody help me understand the speed and turning. I find that some guys (prob. old salts) can get behind me extremely fast. I black out trying to follow the same arc in the same plane. If this is happening to me is it to the other player.

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Re: Just wondering
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2007, 04:31:01 PM »
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I'm pretty much new to this, however could somebody help me understand the speed and turning. I find that some guys (prob. old salts) can get behind me extremely fast. I black out trying to follow the same arc in the same plane. If this is happening to me is it to the other player.


Practice, practice, practice.

This isn't a game you will "master" in a month, or heck, even a year.

This game takes YEARS to master.

I have flown AcesHigh for 5-6 yrs (and AirWarrior before that, so let's call it 11yrs) and I STILL die dumb each and every time I fly.

I would suggest logging some hours with one of our fantastic trainers.  You can email them at trainers@flyaceshigh.com.

I would also suggest reading everything you can find about your new addiction.

http://www.trainers.flyaceshigh.com   and http://www.netaces.org are great places to start.
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Offline RedTop

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2007, 04:31:49 PM »
Some have learned to fly in that lil bitty window...you know when your blacking out and there is just a lliiilllll bit left...they can keep it in that.

Takes time and finess to learn...

You also may think your at the same speed....but they may have dumped some initially and made there turn....

They may have dumped flaps...that helps.
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Offline SPKmes

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Cheers
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2007, 04:39:24 PM »
Cheers guys pretty much as I thought, with the addictive nature of this sport I'm sure I will get plenty of practice.

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Re: Cheers
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2007, 05:01:38 PM »
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Cheers guys pretty much as I thought, with the addictive nature of this sport I'm sure I will get plenty of practice.


Repost in Help & Training. You'll likely get an invite from one of our esteemed trainers who can show you some tricks.

Offline Ghastly

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2007, 05:16:37 PM »
If you are blacking out you're above corner velocity, which means that he is going to blackout if he turns the same circle at the same (or higher) speed too. So chances are if you getting whacked on a regular basis the guy on your six is doing something besides "riding the edge of the blackout better than you do".  

There are three ways that I know of to accomplish this, without being better at not blacking out.

The first way is to do a high yoyo - when you see the bandit pull into a max rate turn where he's going to go into black out, instead of trying to follow his turn in the same plane, you roll towards level and put your nose high and then relax your turn slightly at first and then tighten in as you slow.  As you climb and turn you'll slow because of gravity which helps you turn faster than he does without ever blacking out, and once you slow a bit you'll come around just as fast or faster than he can without blacking out, and you'll get smash back when you drop back in on his six - while he's thrown his away.

The second way is to drop your throttle which will slow your aircraft and as you slow you can turn inside his circle without blacking out.  

The third is to simply go to lag pursuit (turn wider than your bandit does) and once he relaxes his turn either to try to recover from his blackout or to reacquire you, take advantage of the time to roll in on him again.

Often you'll use some combination of two or more of the three.

What will work best will depend upon the plane you're in vs the plane he's in.   In a Corsair, I almost never drop the throttle, since most planes in the game can out accelerate me, and once I'm slower than my enemy, I'm probably not going to get another shot - or maybe not even survive the engagement.  In a lighter aircraft that's more responsive to the throttle I'd be more inclined to use the throttle.

There are guys here who can tell you more, and better than I, though.  Go see the trainers, they'll help you with it.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2007, 10:19:04 PM »
Another thing you could try is maybe find a Squad to train you as well. Looking at your location a good Squad would be "Raw Prawns" they are mainly made of Aussies and Kiwis so you would be flying in the same time zone which is a good advantage over other squads.

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2007, 10:38:32 PM »
I'd suggest contacting Spatula for some training time.  He is also in NZ.

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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2007, 10:58:55 PM »
Alt R and record everthing the best way to teach yourself how to fly.
If you are new to the game and you loose the advantage in a fight run there is no shame in it.
In my opinion fly a plane you can survive in like the la7 or the p51, because staying alive and landing is a confidence booster.  

Really want to learn turn fighting D.A is the best place to be.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2007, 11:19:42 PM »
Something else that no one else says. Personally I don't ever worry about trying to out turn the other guy. Learn to turn smarter than he does and how to keep your E while making him give up his. Most players don't have a grasp on that.
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Re: Cheers
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2007, 12:11:33 AM »
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Cheers guys pretty much as I thought, with the addictive nature of this sport I'm sure I will get plenty of practice.


sence when is flying cartoon planes a sport.
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2007, 06:57:58 AM »
With all of my vast knowledge, here's  a tip, "prop planes work much more effeciently going downhill". Thats about all i know ;) When being ho'd to death, get a bigger cannon. ok I knew 2 things.:D
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