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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2007, 05:26:17 PM »
Gorkle, you're pretty handy with that hardware! I'm curious how you separated the inputs for the different hat directions. Last time I opened mine up I think it was rather unclear.


You ever think about making a frankenstein with the ergonomics of a logitech but the accuracy of a saitek or a MS Prec pro? Basically you'd have to swap the pots and figure out how to jam the electronics into it.

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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2007, 07:08:16 PM »
Thrustmaster Fox2 Pro twisty stick.
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« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2007, 07:38:14 PM »
I've probably used 20 twisty sticks in the last 12 years, couplpe months ago went to CH stick/pedals, never been happier---pedals ALSO have added advantage of being able to make slight course adjustments of tank while in main gun
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« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2007, 08:02:17 PM »
I use a Saitek Aviator. It's a twisty stick with dual throttles. I also built a USB device I call the Main-Gauche. Main-Gauche is literally "left hand" in French, and was the name for a left-handed dagger used mostly for defense in fencing. My Main-Gauche has 8 analog axes and two buttons. I was going to use this to control rudder, throttle, RPMs, etc with the various dials, but the Aviator is more intuitive for me. So I just use the Main-Gauche for trims.



The USB chip is inexpensive and can be found at http://www.aqza37.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/index.html.

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« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2007, 11:15:14 PM »
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Saitek's are better that CH's?


for me, yes.. having tried both I foun d them much more confortable..

adjustable pedal size, removable heel rests, adjustable tension than can be set with your feet on the fly.. I love mine to death..

but I would bet that people who are used to CH stuff would like their CH peds better just for the fact that they are accustomed to them..  but that hardly makes them better (or worse)..

it really comes down to personal preference and budget in the end..

if you go with either CH or Saitek though, you didnt pick the "wrong" ones as both sets are really really good.

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« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2007, 11:18:03 PM »
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Offline RTGorkle

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« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2007, 01:05:39 AM »
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Originally posted by Krusty
I'm curious how you separated the inputs for the different hat directions.


The hat is just 4 switches on a small board, all facing each other. You simply unsolder the switches, and run a pair of wires for each out to your own switches. You don't need to understand anything about electronics - it's just soldering and wires.

Denada has the right idea, buying a USB unit with e.g. 8 axes and 32 switches. No need to scavange old sticks any more.

Offline Jaxxon

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« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2007, 01:26:20 AM »
Thrustmaster Cougar with NXT mod and TM Elite pedals. Hall sensors .
The stick is 6 years old, the rudders are older, the mods about 2 years. Hats and other switches still work well, the original pots and gimbles are in a box, just in case :-)
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Offline kvuo75

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« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2007, 08:26:12 AM »
I had TM pedals in the mid 90's for stuff like MSFS, Falcon 3.0.. Never really did care for them, very awkward to use while sitting in an executive swivel chair at a conference table.. Uncomfortable sitting with my feet stickin out in front like some sort of weirdo.. maybe with a custom cockpit setup theyd be more ergonomic..  (or maybe it was the nature of those TM pedals, they were like 2 feet apart)

when I started in AH last year I just got a twisty.... quite odd to get used to at first, but now, second nature..  and I can put my feet wherever I wish.

definately agree you NEED rudder in this game.
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« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2007, 03:52:57 PM »
For desktop flight sims you can get away with a stick and a keyboard.

In AH....Pedals all the way!

I bought some Saitek pedals soon after starting AH and there is no comparison.

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Step one...get a stick with tons of buttons/hats for views...gotta have lots of views.
step two....get rudder pedals.
 
Some people have strong opinions one way or the other on which manufacturer is better.  I cant say having only ever used the Saitek pedals.  I can say that they have been 100% problem free.  I have never had to recalibrate them or had any issues with them at all.  I think they cost more, but I am willing to pay more for "Works as advertised."

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« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2007, 05:06:59 PM »
Cheapo twisty.


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Offline 68Wooley

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« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2007, 03:24:20 AM »
Saitek pedals here.

Took a bit of getting used to after using twisties for ever, but can't live without them now. Recently had to fly with a borrowed twisty and it was ugly.

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« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2007, 03:54:12 AM »
Still waiting for my Saitek pro pedals to compliment my X52 pro set :(
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« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2007, 09:50:53 AM »
This is how I roll :aok.

I still use a,s,d rudder for shooting, but when I need to use my views, I use my mouse's side buttons for rudder and the middle button to center it.




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Offline Nwbie

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« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2007, 10:09:40 PM »
keyboard - when i remember that i have rudder control - mostly no rudder control - thats why i sux - too cheap to get a new stick until this one dies - then probably a twisty stick because my wife will laff at me for having pedals too...


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