Author Topic: Huckabee's son & the dog (Read 1614 times)

AKIron · « **Reply #15 on:** December 16, 2007, 06:06:19 PM »

If an Arkansas governor can use the state police to bring him prostitutes and go on to be elected to the Presidency by knowing voters it may not hurt Huckabee too much to be accused of asking them for a favor in protecting his son. I think I favor Romney over Huckabee but anybody over Hillary/Obama.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 16, 2007, 06:17:32 PM »

Kids do the darndest things.

moot · « **Reply #17 on:** December 16, 2007, 06:48:28 PM »

If Huckabee is sure that he is the right candidate for the presidency, he'd probably consider that doing what he did as the least worst solution to his reputation. His own reputation matters more than what someone else did that he'd unduely be given responsibility for - the trade off wasn't worth it.
Better get in the white house by covering up some benign crime his kid did on his own impulse than let it be exploited by the media and get excessively bad press for it.

AWMac · « **Reply #18 on:** December 16, 2007, 07:00:59 PM »

See what happened?

Ever since they let them dammm Atheist into the Boy Scouts...

*shakes head*

Mac

Shuckins · « **Reply #19 on:** December 16, 2007, 10:10:56 PM »

No believable corroboration eh? Sounds like horsechit to me.

I got my own reasons for not voting for Huckabee....but this isn't one of them.

SkyRock · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2007, 08:07:29 AM »

Huckabee's a moron anyway, and his son has some hardcore issues if he's doing this kind of stuff.

BlkKnit · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2007, 08:13:45 AM »

I live here, Hatfield is 10 miles away, Camp Pioneer is actually out near the Old Dallas community. Have not heard a thing about this story. That does not make it untrue, I just have not heard. I'm sure that it would have made the rounds and my wife would have said something. Its just the kind of thing that offends her city folk sensibilities

Anyway, sounds like a typical political load of hooey to me, with enough truth to it to make you wonder.

SIG220 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2007, 08:28:08 AM »

There is a major smear campaign currently going on against Huckabee right now.

No one is willing to debate actual issues with him. Instead, all kinds of personal allegations are now being made to discredit him. Remember that this whole story started out with an ANONYMOUS FAX. This reeks of dirty politics, to me. Nothing less than Mud throwing.

It would be the Democratic Party's worst nightmare for a social moderate like Huckabee to get the Republican nomination.

And the Republican Right wing hates him even more. Romney is even calling him a liberal, and saying that his positions on some issues are those of a Democrat.

This is going to be the dirtiest Presidential campaign ever. I doubt we will ever hear any real issues discussed.

SIG 220

Shamus · « **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2007, 08:30:25 AM »

He is getting swift boated.

It used to be this type of thing would not reflect too harshly on the candidate, remember Billy Carter?

This stuff obviously works now on the unthinking masses.

shamus

Chairboy · « **Reply #24 on:** December 17, 2007, 08:45:24 AM »

Well, to be fair, it's not an anonymous claim, the director of the State Police is on record saying that Huckabee told him to quash the investigation, then fired him for "not helping him out" with his son's issue. Sure, he might be saying stuff because he's pissed about getting fired, but he's putting his name on the line and putting himself under risk of criminal charges if it's a fabrication.

SIG220 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 17, 2007, 09:20:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Well, to be fair, it's not an anonymous claim, the director of the State Police is on record saying that Huckabee told him to quash the investigation, then fired him for "not helping him out" with his son's issue. Sure, he might be saying stuff because he's pissed about getting fired, but he's putting his name on the line and putting himself under risk of criminal charges if it's a fabrication.

You missed my point. The whole thing got initially spread to the press via an anonymous FAX. WHO sent that FAX? What was their motivation? Aren't you at all interested in that?

If such tactics were being used against Obama or Clinton, the Democrats would be screaming bloody murder at this point and calling it a Republican conspiracy.

If you think that it is a crime to lie to the press about events, then you need to go back and study criminal law. He is not under oath in any courtroom. Huckabee could sue him in civil court if he is lying. But that would only serve to generate more negative publicity for him. So there is no way that he would ever do that. Besides, it would be his word against the other guy's word. How could one determine who is telling the truth?

And you fail to note that Mr. Baily, the director of the State Police, was fired by Huckabee. How do you know that this is not just bitter grapes on his part for being fired back then, as Huckabee says??

This is dirty, dirty stuff. It is outright mud-slinging.

Huckabee is coming across as the most moderate Republican candidate, and that is appealing to a lot of folks.

Do you realize how many other similar stories like this one, have come out this past week since he rose up so high in the polls??

SIG 220

crockett · « **Reply #26 on:** December 17, 2007, 09:20:47 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
You don't think the timing of this story has anything to do with the election do you?

Does timing matter in a case like this? If it happened 5 years ago or 2 weeks ago it makes no diffrence. It shows he abused his powers to get his kid out of trouble.

I mean hell if it's for speeding or a party then hell who cares, but this is a pretty sick freaking crime.

Chairboy · « **Reply #27 on:** December 17, 2007, 09:26:49 AM »

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Originally posted by SIG220
YAnd you fail to note that Mr. Baily, the director of the State Police, was fired by Huckabee. How do you know that this is not just bitter grapes on his part for being fired back then, as Huckabee says??

Actually, I explicitly mentioned that in the message you're quoting, you might want to read things a little closer before replying. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of good posturing.

Don't shoot the messenger, this is a news story that's worth discussing which is why I posted it. If it's a "swift boating", then that's a story too.

crockett · « **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2007, 09:27:29 AM »

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Originally posted by SIG220
You missed my point. The whole thing got initially spread to the press via an anonymous FAX. WHO sent that FAX? What was their motivation? Aren't you at all interested in that?

If such tactics were being used against Obama or Clinton, the Democrats would be screaming bloody murder at this point and calling it a Republican conspiracy.

SIG 220

Oh BS.. Republicans use the dirtiest tactics out there and the Dems hardly ever say anything about it. The fact is this happened and it was brought to public eye.

Politically motivated? Ummm yea I'm sure it was.. Well guess what it still happened and he abused his powers for personal gain.

SIG220 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2007, 09:30:03 AM »

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Originally posted by crockett
Does timing matter in a case like this? If it happened 5 years ago or 2 weeks ago it makes no diffrence. It shows he abused his powers to get his kid out of trouble.

I mean hell if it's for speeding or a party then hell who cares, but this is a pretty sick freaking crime.

His son was never charged with any crime, despite the fact that the local DA investigated.

Are you going to convict someone of a crime, by reports being spread by a most biased animal rights group and the press??

This is very dirty dirty politics at work here.

SIG 220