Stick dampening

[BaldEagl]

Just a guess Hub but it looks like the 2nd string is the default settings.

[The Fugitive]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
I've never tinkered with the text file, only making adjustments in game. In the .jsm file, the data appears as below:

Saitek X52 Flight Controller
9,42
Y Axis
0,32767,65535,0.087000,0.174000,0.250000
AXIS,PITCH,0,1
0.31,0.39,0.48,0.59,0.68,0.77,0.89,1.00,1.00,1.00
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00  <---- AK-AK's setting
AXIS,PITCH,0,1
0.10,0.20,0.30,0.40,0.50,0.60,0.70,0.80,0.90,1.00<----GV setting
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
X Axis
0,32767,65535,0.050000,0.100000,0.250000
AXIS,ROLL,0,1
0.31,0.39,0.48,0.59,0.68,0.77,0.89,1.00,1.00,1.00
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00  < AK-AK's setting
AXIS,ROLL,0,1
0.10,0.20,0.30,0.40,0.50,0.60,0.70,0.80,0.90,1.00<----GV setting
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
Z Rotation
0,32768,65535,0.350000,0.256000,0.250000
AXIS,YAW,0,1
0.03,0.11,0.22,0.32,0.43,0.54,0.65,0.76,0.89,1.00
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00  <---- AK-AK's setting
AXIS,YAW,0,1
0.10,0.20,0.30,0.40,0.50,0.60,0.70,0.80,0.90,1.00<----GV setting


The first string of values for Axis roll/pitch/yaw 0,1 is what we should replace, leaving the second string as it is?

replace the "red" numbers with the "blue" numbers

[hubsonfire]

Ah, 2nd control mode, that makes sense- have them scaled differently..

[LePaul]

Where does one edit the JSM files?

I dont have an X52 folder in my Program Files \ HTC \Aces High II \ Sticks

I do see a stick.cfg in Program Files \ HTC \ Aces High II\ Settings

[LePaul]

Here's part of my saitek52flightcontrolsystem file...note my AXIS ROLL seems to be different?

Saitek X52 Flight Control System
9,42
Y Axis
0,32767,65535,0.050000,0.100000,0.250000
AXIS,PITCH,0,1
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
X Axis
0,32767,65535,0.050000,0.100000,0.250000
AXIS,ROLL,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
Z Rotation
0,32767,65535,0.050000,0.100000,0.250000
AXIS,YAW,0,1
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
Slider
0,32767,65535,0.050000,0.100000,0.250000
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
Y Rotation
0,32767,65535,0.050000,0.100000,0.250000
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
X Rotation
0,32767,65535,0.050000,0.100000,0.250000
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0

[Ghastly]

In constrast to the above recommendations, I'll give you mine... which is leave everything set at full responsiveness (and only add as little deadbanding as you can get away with to compensate for any looseness in the stick mechanism).

The reason for this is simple - as you change the sliders, you change the effectiveness of the stick in each band - which then causes it to move IN DIFFERENT SIZED "JUMPS" as it crosses from one band to the next.  You make it MUCH more difficult to control your aircraft with the absolute precision that seperates the wannabes from the ace of aces, because "just a little bit more" will often cross a boundary and then you're bouncing all over the place trying to readjust to the change in responsiveness of the stick in the new band.

And then, learn to fly with a light touch.  You aren't a peasant wielding an ax at your opponent, you are Cassanova wooing a lover, coaxing your aircraft with the gentlest of possible touches to do what just isn't possible, leaving your opponent dumbfounded as he tries to hamfist his bird around in response.

It's also IMO much easier to fly with differing controllers and in differing sims (as you change them over time), if you have a consistent scaling - and the most consistent of all possible scaling is none.

[Tilt]

On the X52 I have everything set at max although I am wondering if i can set differing profiles for differing modes. (as in flight, vehicle etc etc)

It would be neat to have very fine control of the 76mm turret on a tank. Right now it jumps all over the place........... I cant set it right where I want it at all....................its just down to luck or actually being very close.

[LYNX]

Originally posted by Tilt
On the X52 I have everything set at max although I am wondering if i can set differing profiles for differing modes. (as in flight, vehicle etc etc)

It would be neat to have very fine control of the 76mm turret on a tank. Right now it jumps all over the place........... I cant set it right where I want it at all....................its just down to luck or actually being very close.

Ere ar mate try this.  Go to mapstick drop the mode menu down to mode 2 (GV).  Now enable scaling in X & Y.  If scaling here isn't default set it so.    Check the box to "auto select mode" before exiting.  Now calibrate stick.  Job done no wacky gv stick.

I use scaling in 3 modes  1) planes.  2) GV's (default).  3) planes combat trim off.  

From experience I have found using YOUR flight scaling, sliders to the top or NO scaling in GV mode is hideous.

The one thing you can't change across modes is Dead Band and Damping.  What you set for flight goes across all modes.

[Ghastly]

In light of the discussion turning to GV's let me qualify my recommendation - I meant it to apply to flight only.  

Turrets and ground guns are definately a whole different game.

[Tilt]

Originally posted by LYNX
Ere ar mate try this.  Go to mapstick drop the mode menu down to mode 2 (GV).  Now enable scaling in X & Y.  If scaling here isn't default set it so.    Check the box to "auto select mode" before exiting.  Now calibrate stick.  Job done no wacky gv stick.
 

Yup.......... so easy why have I not done this before I can actually get the gun sights to point at something rather than jump from one side to the other............

I always fly with combat trim off.

I have a button macro'd to switch it on then off again to re trim.

Now all I have to do is learn how to shoot..........but given I have been tryin for 11 years at this game and AW I reckon I probably can't cure that with a JS fix.

[flatiron1]

Originally posted by LePaul
Where does one edit the JSM files?

I dont have an X52 folder in my Program Files \ HTC \Aces High II \ Sticks

I do see a stick.cfg in Program Files \ HTC \ Aces High II\ Settings

same question, but no answer, help please

[hubsonfire]

C:\Program Files\HTC\Aces High II\settings

The name of the settings file will vary depending on which stick you have, and how it's identified. If you still can't figure out which one to change, fire up the game, make an adjustment to your controls, exit the game, go back to the settings folder, and sort by "Modified". That should bring the correct stick settings file to the top of the list.

[Pudgie]

Use Notepad.