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« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2007, 10:18:49 AM »
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Originally posted by humble

Obviously to some degree the lower numbers on some planes reflect the Jabo lemming role to a degree while planes with low use have numbers skewed as well [moot, ww etc in 152 this tour?]
 


A clear yes. I guess the recent discussion on Ta-152's FM has made a few of the better, more analytical sticks to take her up for a few sorties, resulting in a better K/D:

Ta152 K/D

Tour 91 - 1.06
Tour 92 - 1.19
Tour 93 - 1.22
Tour 94 - 0.995 (!)
Tour 95 - 1.57

Two players alone were able to boost the TA-152 k/d  by app. 0.25...
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« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2007, 10:22:07 AM »
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Max speed at 30K...

P-47N: 476 mph WEP/436 mph MIL
F4U-4: 445 mph WEP or MIL (at 30k, there's no MAP boost using WEP)

On the deck, the P-51B is not among the fastest, able to reach only 358 mph. In comparison, the 109K-4 can do 368 (as can the P-51D), with the F4U-4 doing 376 mph, P-47N at 366 mph, and the Tempest doing 387 mph.

The P-51B shines at middle altitudes and very high altitudes.

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ahh I couldn't remember if it was P-51B or not heard someone tested it to best top 3 on the deck (without perks) so leaving out F4u-4 and tempest, would be La7, P51-D P51-B ?

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« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2007, 10:25:59 AM »
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There really isnt a single answer since the pilot makes the plane "shine". A good pilot can make the most of an "ordinary" plane and a great stick makes anything he's in "uber".


I agree, I flew variety of planes and I believe I would shine in a Fw190 but been willing to understand the 109 more and more I fly it, so far my K/D has done nothing but risen since i been flying my primary 2 birds.

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« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2007, 10:28:06 AM »
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ahh I couldn't remember if it was P-51B or not heard someone tested it to best top 3 on the deck (without perks) so leaving out F4u-4 and tempest, would be La7, P51-D P51-B ?


La-7, 190D, Typhoon, P51D & 109K, P-47N, Ta-152H, Spit XIV, F4U-1 & P-51B
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« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2007, 10:40:51 AM »
Back in November, I did some 40k speed runs comparing the Ta 152 and P-47N.

At 40,000 feet, the Ta 152 could reach 453 mph. That's mighty fast. However, the P-47N was able to attain 462 mph. The 152 required WEP, but the P-47N was above FTH, so WEP provided no increase in power.

Adding to the difference was the far superior acceleration and climb of the P-47N above 30k. The 152 required a 50 mile run to reach max speed from 400 mph, but the P-47 needed just 30 miles (and was 9 mph faster). Maneuvering was tested subjectively. I found the Jug far more stable and a much better turner, especially as it could utilize flaps very easily and efficiently.

At 450 mph @ 40k, I executed a zoom climb in each. The P-47's greater mass carried it about 1,000 feet higher.

From 43,000 feet, I dived each to its maximum speed. In Mach, the results were:
Ta 152: 0.88 Mach
P-47N: 0.91 Mach

Both recovered without drama using trim tabs.

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« Reply #50 on: December 27, 2007, 10:42:14 AM »
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La-7, 190D, Typhoon, P51D & 109K, P-47N, Ta-152H, Spit XIV, F4U-1 & P-51B


You can add the F4U-1A at 366 mph, a dead heat with the P-47N.

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