Author Topic: Crumpp's book (Read 2129 times)

mensa180 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 01, 2008, 02:55:51 PM »

Proxies. And as for thrusting you, I'll pass

Bronk · « **Reply #31 on:** January 01, 2008, 02:57:29 PM »

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Creating a new account is complicated when your IP has been banned. Thrust me.

Well if you managed...................

Viking · « **Reply #32 on:** January 01, 2008, 03:01:14 PM »

Would you?

Widewing · « **Reply #33 on:** January 01, 2008, 03:12:45 PM »

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See Rule #4

I haven't said anything I haven't stated to Crump directly. Moreover, nothing I wouldn't say face to face.

He can't defend himself because he managed to get himself booted, which is not an easy thing to do, inasmuch as HTC gave him a great deal of latitude and countless warnings via edited and locked threads. The apparent fact that he has not changed his ways is indicative of a compulsive behavior. He is informed time and time again, yet will not learn.

What would you like us to do, pat his head and say that he's just misunderstood? You make it sound like he's the victim, instead of the ever repeating offender. He willingly stuck Mr. Winkie in the meat grinder and you are upset that people he offended are reaching for the handle....

My advice is not to back the losing horse, especially after the race is run. Whatever he may have to offer, he has polluted with his toxic personality.

My regards,

Widewing

eddiek · « **Reply #34 on:** January 01, 2008, 03:16:02 PM »

What Widewing said........

Viking · « **Reply #35 on:** January 01, 2008, 03:23:17 PM »

See Rule #5

WMLute · « **Reply #36 on:** January 01, 2008, 03:47:10 PM »

I can't believe I read that whole stupid thread.

(edit: the stupid thread on the OTHER forum, not this stupid thread)

Angus · « **Reply #37 on:** January 01, 2008, 04:38:17 PM »

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I recall Crump arguing that the Spitfire could not follow the Fw190 in a climp because the Spitfire climbed at ~4,500fpm at 170mph and the Fw190 climbed at ~3,750fpm at 190mph. He could not grasp that the Spitfire's climbrate at 190mph was still better than the Fw190's and it could just lower its climb to match the 190's. He insisted that the angle of the climb would be off and the Spit couldn't get a gun solution that way.

He didn't understand how the Fw190 had to utilize its speed and climb to escape from the Spitfire. He thought it happened at best climb speed, not at the point where the Spitfire had no spare thrust and the Fw190 still had some, 321mph at sea level for the Mk IX, 338mph for the VIII, 344mph for the XVI and 358 for the Mk XIV. Well, a bit sooner as the Fw190's excess thrust would exceed the Spit's before the reached their max speed, but you get the idea.

I recall this debate, I was probably in it. Good memory you have Karnak.
Anyway, I was always rather in a good contact with Crumpp, we even flew together. We also had jostling debates with Izzy on numerous occations.
He did have good sources as well, but no sources are complete (normally) and then you need the head as well as the historical knowledge to compile the whole heap, - up to some sense!
I recall a thread where Crumpp sort of snapped, and went all mad at Widewing, I think I even posted something there. Sort of baffled me.
Later on, there was a BoB or something of the sort-Thread, where he really baffled me again with complete lack of comprehension. I think Scholzie may have been touching those issues as well as many others...now was it the BoB or the Graf Zeppelin (CV) thread.
Anyway, shortly after Crumpp was banned, and he did not show up again.
I had a BoB debate prepped for him, so I found it a pity (

), and we never got on to the subject per email or otherwise.
So, no bashing here, just looking back a bit, and I rather have the opinion that it would have been better for at least Crumpp to stay on the forum, just like you....Viking.

skaltura · « **Reply #38 on:** January 01, 2008, 08:43:15 PM »

What is wrong with Izzy´s possible political affiliation? Though I have battled with on many occasions, sometimes with very heated words, I have no political problems with him.

Scherf · « **Reply #39 on:** January 01, 2008, 10:04:29 PM »

In Crumpp's defence ( ... gawd ... ), he does have his uses. He's just posted a very interesting original German document re: the Me 410 over on the other board. Fans of twins such as myself and Viking can only be grateful.

More to the point, I don't think he can be an entirely well man. I've never encountered anyone quite so convinced of his omniscience - it can't be an easy burden to bear.

Edit - that last part doesn't come across quite right. It can't be easy to always believe oneself to be in the right, despite ever-mounting evidence to the contrary.

moot · « **Reply #40 on:** January 02, 2008, 02:45:23 AM »

I personaly couldn't care less about his issues. They aren't mine, I've got nothing to do with them, and they have nothing to do with the WWII data.

Benny Moore · « **Reply #41 on:** January 02, 2008, 06:45:50 AM »

I didn't realize that Crumpp was banned from here. All of my discussions with him occurred at other forums. Is Kurfurst (also known as Isegrim) also banned from here? And if so, would it be frowned upon if I were to rejoice?

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I personaly couldn't care less about his issues. They aren't mine, I've got nothing to do with them, and they have nothing to do with the WWII data.

But his issues don't have nothing to do with the data. His refusal to admit that any Western technology could be superior to something created by the Holy Third Reich taints his objectivity. Considering the lack of honesty I've observed in him, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he was altering or fabricating some of his documents. I recall Kurfurst doing that.

Charge · « **Reply #42 on:** January 02, 2008, 08:20:49 AM »

"His refusal to admit that any Western technology could be superior to something created by the Holy Third Reich taints his objectivity."

I don't recall such thing. As far as I remember his interests were quite limited and claiming an affection to anything out of "third reich" actually shows how cartoonish and naive your interpretation of him and his interests actually is.

"This guy is never gonna be happy until he can convince everyone that Germany should have won WW2 as they were the world leaders in technology, not just in aviation, but ALL technology."

Can't really even comment this but it's worth pointing out. Basically same BS as above. I don't think either of these persons have swastikas hanging from their wall.

Kurfürst certainly was a 109... "fanatic"...., if you like, and tried to lob the qualities of 109, just as you guys promote the qualities of your favourite rides here every day.

Same for Crumpp but his affection was for 190s. He thought that 190s were somehow "broken" because they did not fly as he thought they should fly. His mentality and attitude to HTC did not really get any better by constant baiting by people who didn't really have anything to say in discussions, just to get the little "Hitler look-a-like" to jump. And for what? Just to promote their own position? Probably many of them grown up men behaving like kids on a school yard. Was actually kind of sad to see it happening.

Those guys had their issues but as I saw it they were literally smoked out of Aces High with majority agreeing that it was good for the community. Didn't really seem to raise the level of discussion to new intellectual heights...

-C+

Viking · « **Reply #43 on:** January 02, 2008, 08:31:40 AM »

Yes Charge, that's exactly what's been going on. Gang up and ridicule the guy until he snaps.

MiloMorai · « **Reply #44 on:** January 02, 2008, 08:43:59 AM »

Yes Benny Barbi was banned when he went on one of infamous rants making very obnoxious remarks about the death of Dan's 2 teenage children. It was so bad his posts were deleted from the thread.