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Offline oboe

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« on: December 30, 2007, 12:32:00 PM »
This one's pretty close to done.   Please point out anything wrong or forgotten- I've stared at it so long I'm cross-eyed.   Less paint fading on purpose on this one because I guessed the Alaska climate wouldn't be as hard on paint as the SouPac or North Africa.

Capt George Laven runs up Itsy Bitsy on the tarmac at Adak


I've got a problem, though - my black dirt/grime layers are showing up rust-colored and I don't know why this is occurring.  I've gone back and desaturated the layers, too.

Is it my nVidia 7600GS graphics card doing that?  I don't recall having that problem with my old Ati 9800.   Seems to be related to partially transparent layers on the green drab background.  Anybody know what I could try to eliminate the rust color?   I'm using Photoshop 6.0 and exporting to bmp through a plugin called Bright.   But it happens too if I export to bmp natively through Photoshop without ising the plugin.

I'd appreciate any help.   Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2007, 07:50:25 PM »
It's 54th FS Oboe.  Looks good to me :)

I like it with the red outlined star and bar and squadron insignia on the radiator housing.

OD might be a bit on the light side.  At least in the color shots it seems darker to me.  Could be my monitor too.  I don't think they faded as much in the cold in the Aluetians.
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 08:32:54 PM »
Nice Oboe, in my opinion this is your best skin :aok
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 09:56:53 PM »
Something was bugging me and I couldn't put my finger on it until now.

The nose numbers are a different font on your skin Oboe then show in the images.  They might be a tad small too. Looks like yours are outlined in black and it doesn't appear to be that way.

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 10:18:58 PM »
Well geez Kruppy35 if your gonna be that way, best point out the ITSY BITSY letters are too far apart and need to be bolder. :rofl
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 10:48:29 PM »
Gosh you guys might be right - may eyes are playing tricks on me - I thought I saw a black outline on those figures somewhere.

Yep, think I took it right out of the profile in P38s in action.    That's why letters are too far apart compared to photo.   Thanks for catching that.

Also, am I really seeing a dirt and grime covered yellow band just behind the spinner?   It doesn't appear on any other photos of 54th FS 38s.

Also, you may notice the index finger is pointing up, not the middle finger as in the real art.   But no need to go down that road again :D

Have I got the tail serial num correct at 12076?   The profile lists it as 22076.

Will also darken the olive green more.

Thanks for your help!
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2007, 11:56:14 PM »
I think it's a painted over yellow band behind the spinner that's starting to show through from the weathering.

serial would have to be starting with a 1 just because the production run was 41 not 42 for those 38s.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2007, 12:15:50 AM »
looks good oboe!
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2007, 07:49:06 AM »
Here's an extreme closeup of one of the hangar shots I think I got from you, Dan.   I see in the nose ID numbers what I took to be a dark outline around "76", but after looking again, it looks to me like it might be an area of fresher drab paint applied in the general shape of the "76" - maybe even behind the '6' only?

It is clearer here too that the letters of "ITSY BITSY" are practically touching,
but from the color photo above they appear to have a dark outline around them?
 


EDIT: A closeup of the color photo above, max-quality jpeg.   It does appear that both "76" and ITSY BITSY are outlined - but is it black or a dark, fresh olive drab?


Or is this just an illusion caused by the camera film?  E.g., the pilot in the center - doesn't his light-colored fur collar seem to have the same kind of dark outline I see on the letters and numbers?   Look too at the shell casing eject ports, the nose gear struts, and the pitot tube under the nose - everything light-colored seems to have a dark outline around it....
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 07:54:45 AM »
IMO, its too clean to be an Aleutian Lightning- paint might not fade as much up north, but they got filthy in all that slush and mud.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2007, 10:24:56 AM »
I doubt the name or the number are outlined in black.  How would that help highlight them against a dark olive drab?

I think it's a trick of the old color film and I would go without any outlines.

They might have renamed / renumbered the plane which would acccount for fresh OD behind those areas.
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2007, 10:38:00 AM »
I think you are right Fencer - its a trick of the old film.   That outline around the pitot tube is a clear indicator of something odd going on in the photo.   I'll redo without outlines.

I'm glad that color photo got brought up again, too.   I think I am using the wrong yellow.   I had been using USAAC Yellow, x'EFAB00' but I think that is too dark - I'll try "ID Yellow"which is a bit brighter.

Thanks for your input and help everyone.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2007, 11:04:07 AM »
It could be that there was a color behind the "itsy bitsy" -- but not black. Were it black it'd show a lot better. It could just be a fresh patch of OD or some other on-hand color. Shadows, or backgrounds, were quite common in a lot of the noseart pics I've browsed through online.

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2007, 11:25:30 AM »
No problem Krusty, just teasing Guppy a little.  You do have to admit you are the most prolific reviewer of skins on the boards.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2008, 09:37:55 PM »
Final review before submit:
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