Originally posted by moot Wolfala, that definitely improves your chances, but I was assuming the ostwind knows what it's doing: It has its engine off and is scanning the skies for attackers by sight and sound.Coming in with the engine off on the deck is the stealthiest way, but the 25H is slow enough that you are betting on not being seen during the 3.5K visible icon range during approach and not having to make any evasives during or after the pass. That's pretty risky [/QUOTERisk is part of the game if you wanna sit in that chair my friend. We've both been defending against GV's at the same time - so we know how effective a can-opener the 25H can be.