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Offline MjTalon

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« on: January 10, 2008, 05:00:46 PM »
Name says it :D .


Just the basic of flap useage with a 109, since i barely use them, and i hear that there important with throttle use.


Anyone available :cool: ?

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2008, 10:17:37 AM »
I'd suggest you look up Agent360.  He's the best 109K stick I've run into.  I saw he was in the DA the other night.
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2008, 11:34:17 AM »
I am in the DA most of the time now. I would be glad to show you some moves. Just PM me if you see me there and we can work on some stuff.

BaldEagl - you are too generous. hehe. But I am still only a grasshopper.

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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2008, 11:58:41 AM »
I'll look for you agent and eagle when I get online now, been flying some Luftwaffe the past few days they seem fun. The D-9 is an outright murderer but I feel the 109s would be more 'sustainable' in a 1v1 dogfight.

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2008, 12:11:03 PM »
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I'll look for you agent and eagle when I get online now, been flying some Luftwaffe the past few days they seem fun. The D-9 is an outright murderer but I feel the 109s would be more 'sustainable' in a 1v1 dogfight.

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Stop by the Training Arena some time and we'll fly the 109s a bit. You'll find that the 190D-9 has a very limited range of ability. Basically, a hit and run, slashing type of fighter. On the other hand, the 109s are far more able to dogfight, with the 109F being one of the best furballer fighters in the game. In a knife fight, the 109G-2 is very much the equal of the La-7, and IMHO, superior to the Yak-9U.

I hear nothing but good things about Agent360's skill in 109s. If you can find him in the DA or MA, ask him for advice.

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2008, 02:01:24 PM »
Yea,  i tend to take the K or the G14 untill furballs, since in fact that's were i'm more in tuned with the plane.


I find knife fighting, and picking your shots with the 109K takes patience, but it's rewarded with a 1 shot kill to the tower ( most of the times ). :D

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2008, 02:03:22 PM »
Next time you see me in the arena's we can goto the DA and go a few k4 rounds
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2008, 12:14:03 AM »
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In a knife fight, the 109G-2 is very much the equal of the La-7, and IMHO, superior to the Yak-9U.

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I'd be interested in putting that theory to the test.


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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2008, 09:26:23 AM »
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I'd be interested in putting that theory to the test.


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It's not really a theory. Several of the trainers have done comparison fights. In addition, I've flown the G-2 against 2 and 3 on one, just to test its ability. In 2v1 with the other two gents flying F4U-1As, the 109G-2 won, and did so by dominating the vertical. I've got lots of film of these types of fights. Many people just don't realize how dominant the 109s can be when flown by pilots who know how to utilize their strengths.

We'll probably have to do this on a weekend as we are on opposite sides of the planet. I can get online fairly early on a Saturday, around 9 AM Eastern US time.

I noticed that you stated that you don't fly in the DA. That's ok, we can use the TA. In some respects, the TA is better for evaluating aircraft as a mistake doesn't require getting a new airplane. You merely break off, separate and merge again.

Just keep the following in mind... The 109G-2 climbs faster than the Yak-9U. The G-2 accelerates faster from low speeds. In turn radius, the 109G-2 is slightly superior clean, vastly superior with flaps. At speeds below 200 mph, the 109G-2 is extremely stable, with a powerful rudder and very good ailerons.

If you really want to see something amazing, I'll take up a 109F-4. This is a late 1941 vintage fighter, and one of the top dogfighters in the game.

Drop me a PM with your expected schedule.

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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2008, 10:05:09 AM »
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If you really want to see something amazing, I'll take up a 109F-4. This is a late 1941 vintage fighter, and one of the top dogfighters in the game.


Anytime I encounter a 109F-4 in the mid-war, it only takes 2 turns, and sometimes 1 turn to realize when "eagler" is behind the stick.

First time I ran into him (not knowing it was him) I thought ... pffft, 109F ... easy kill. Boy was I surprised !!! ... I kept saying to myself ... "It's a 109, what up with that turn ?" ... "How can a 109 do rolling scissors and compete with an FM2 ?"

I have had some of the best/enjoyable fights of my AH career with eagler in his 109F and me in my FM2.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2008, 10:18:42 AM »
I agree with WW, the 109s are very dominate with a experienced stick behind the controls.


I consider myself a skilled 109 stick, i'm not the best, but i'm constantly learning daily. I'm normally online daily, so you could catch me in the MA majority of the time, also i'll drop you a PM WW so i could give you my available times.


As for agent, i'll Look for you online as well.

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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2008, 10:38:38 AM »
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Anytime I encounter a 109F-4 in the mid-war, it only takes 2 turns, and sometimes 1 turn to realize when "eagler" is behind the stick.

First time I ran into him (not knowing it was him) I thought ... pffft, 109F ... easy kill. Boy was I surprised !!! ... I kept saying to myself ... "It's a 109, what up with that turn ?" ... "How can a 109 do rolling scissors and compete with an FM2 ?"

I have had some of the best/enjoyable fights of my AH career with eagler in his 109F and me in my FM2.


Yep, eagler whooped me 4-5 times in a row one day in that thing.  I was in a Spit V.  He knows how to fly it.
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