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Offline culero

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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2008, 09:36:41 AM »
Well, seems that any kind of BS flies easily here :)

(Hint: gunns was yanking ya'lls leg, the Rio Bravo ain't never froze ;))
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« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2008, 09:39:40 AM »
Honest it is the truth,
Rio Grande has been frozen at the Paseo del Norte crossing for three days now, here in Albuquerque.
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« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2008, 09:40:39 AM »
Oh, hell gunns, that ain't in Texas. It don't matter :)
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« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2008, 09:42:30 AM »
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I agree , I'm like you sure that 2000 ph.d in climatology are less competent in climatology than 20 000 ph.D in mechanic.
Were the original lot all climatologists?
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« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2008, 09:45:45 AM »
Grin,
It's a lot higher that's for certain, river is 5000' ASL. and there is a ski resort on the mountain here (10,500')
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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2008, 09:57:32 AM »
Yeah, I spent a summer in Albuquerque many moons ago, I'm familiar with it. What the hell are you doing there? I thought you were in Oklahomely?
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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2008, 10:24:57 AM »
straffo.. there are not 2000 scientists in climate science saying we are causing catastrophic man made global warming..

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb

most of the ones who signed the un joke are now recanting.   I think it is more like 7% of the scientists who believe it is real and a looming catastrophe.

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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2008, 10:29:31 AM »
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Were the original lot all climatologists?


I don't know , I just now the number or common belief is not an argument just remember Galilei or Copernicus.

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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2008, 11:19:27 AM »
It is sorta like this these days...

"Physicist John W. Brosnahan, who develops remote-sensing tools for clients like the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, says: "Of course I believe in global warming, and in global cooling -- all part of the natural climate changes that the Earth has experienced for billions of years, caused primarily by cyclical variations in solar output."

Brosnahan says he has "not seen any sort of definitive, scientific link to man-made carbon dioxide as the root cause of global warming, only incomplete computer models that suggest that this might be the case." Those models, he says, leave out too many variables.

Indeed, a study in the Royal Meteorological Society's International Journal of Climatology looked at 22 computer models used by the IPCC. Most of the models couldn't even predict the past.

Predictably, after a quick review of the report, Gore spokeswoman Kalee Kreider said 25 to 30 of the scientists may have received funding from Exxon Mobil (NYSE:XOM) , though she didn't name which scientists she thinks were bribed to distort the truth. Wise move.

This is not like Al Gore getting 75 hours of free airtime on NBC, a unit of General Electric (NYSE:GE) , which stands to make wads of cash on things like solar panels and wind turbines. Or Gore being involved with a company that sells carbon offsets.

Heartland Institute senior fellow James Taylor has noted that more than 600 scientists at the Bali gathering could have debunked Gore's warming theories, but the U.N. "censored" them.

By the way, Gore and his statist friends in Europe repeatedly have criticized the U.S. for its "failure to act" on warming. But new data show the U.S. in 2006 slashed output of greenhouse gases by 1.3%, while Europe's output continued to grow. So who's failing to act?"


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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2008, 11:55:26 AM »
yea its cold here.. it actually snowed here in like..forever!  :D
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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2008, 12:00:00 PM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
It is sorta like this these days...

"Physicist John W. Brosnahan, who develops remote-sensing tools for clients like the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, says: "Of course I believe in global warming, and in global cooling -- all part of the natural climate changes that the Earth has experienced for billions of years, caused primarily by cyclical variations in solar output."

Brosnahan says he has "not seen any sort of definitive, scientific link to man-made carbon dioxide as the root cause of global warming, only incomplete computer models that suggest that this might be the case." Those models, he says, leave out too many variables.

Indeed, a study in the Royal Meteorological Society's International Journal of Climatology looked at 22 computer models used by the IPCC. Most of the models couldn't even predict the past.

Predictably, after a quick review of the report, Gore spokeswoman Kalee Kreider said 25 to 30 of the scientists may have received funding from Exxon Mobil (NYSE:XOM) , though she didn't name which scientists she thinks were bribed to distort the truth. Wise move.

This is not like Al Gore getting 75 hours of free airtime on NBC, a unit of General Electric (NYSE:GE) , which stands to make wads of cash on things like solar panels and wind turbines. Or Gore being involved with a company that sells carbon offsets.

Heartland Institute senior fellow James Taylor has noted that more than 600 scientists at the Bali gathering could have debunked Gore's warming theories, but the U.N. "censored" them.

By the way, Gore and his statist friends in Europe repeatedly have criticized the U.S. for its "failure to act" on warming. But new data show the U.S. in 2006 slashed output of greenhouse gases by 1.3%, while Europe's output continued to grow. So who's failing to act?"


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Don't tell any of this to moray, he chooses to believe without question anything bad about the USA or the administration.
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« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2008, 12:02:02 PM »
We used to have snow from early December to mid March or so...

Now we've had two about 2-3 day periods of snow. Xmas was black. Its been raining most January and today my kids went biking and I raked some leaves from green grass :(

Yes, I truly begin to believe in global warming. I've never seen a "winter" like this.


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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2008, 12:13:57 PM »
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Don't tell any of this to moray, he chooses to believe without question anything bad about the USA or the administration.


Completely un-true.. I'm not searching for conspiracy.  I love my country more than my own life.  My family has 3 plots filled in Arlington.  Questioning is not anti-american.. it is what it means TO BE American.

I simply question the rationale most Americans render for their facts.  Give one vaguely science based talk in america and tell me what happens...I already know.  Half of this country still wholeheartedly believes the planet is 6,000 years old.  Half the time if i talk about the evolution of an organism..it turns into a fight.  

On this administration....You have me there.

I find it incredulous that you can't question it after all the lies.  You should expect more.
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« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2008, 12:23:15 PM »
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Completely un-true.. I'm not searching for conspiracy.  I love my country more than my own life.  My family has 3 plots filled in Arlington.  Questioning is not anti-american.. it is what it means TO BE American.

I simply question the rationale most Americans render for their facts.  Give one vaguely science based talk in america and tell me what happens...I already know.  Half of this country still wholeheartedly believes the planet is 6,000 years old.  Half the time if i talk about the evolution of an organism..it turns into a fight.  

On this administration....You have me there.

I find it incredulous that you can't question it after all the lies.  You should expect more.


I bit ironic that it was I who suggested there are questions about the global warming theory, and you attacked me for it, taking the posture that global warming is a fact and I shouldn't allow for questions on the matter.

Ironic may not be the right word, hypocritical would probably fit better in the context of this thread and your latest post.
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« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2008, 12:34:43 PM »
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I bit ironic that it was I who suggested there are questions about the global warming theory, and you attacked me for it, taking the posture that global warming is a fact and I shouldn't allow for questions on the matter.

Ironic may not be the right word, hypocritical would probably fit better in the context of this thread and your latest post.


You are completely right in questioning... yet to question it you must have a baseline understanding...and not just belch up a position you feel is right, and then go looking for support for it.

That isn't how science works.
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