Author Topic: new Henry rifle... (Read 2217 times)

DiabloTX · « **Reply #30 on:** January 23, 2008, 08:42:37 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
"He did not care any more... life and death... the same. Only that the crowd would be there to greet him with howls of lust and fury. He began to realize his sense of worth... he mattered. In time, his victories could not easily be counted... he was taken to the east, a great prize, where the war masters would teach him the deepest secrets. Language and writing were also made available, the poetry of Khitai, the philosophy of Sung; and he also came to know the pleasures of women, when he was bred to the finest stock. But, always, there remained the discipline of steel."

Awesome. Just watched that movie this past weekend!

AKIron · « **Reply #31 on:** January 23, 2008, 08:49:07 PM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Awesome. Just watched that movie this past weekend!

Wonder if it's available on Blu-ray? (where'd i put that google)

Bingolong · « **Reply #32 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:11:30 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
yes, there is a law that says steel is stronger than brass.

the forward stock?

DiabloTX · « **Reply #33 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:34:34 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron

Wonder if it's available on Blu-ray? (where'd i put that google)

I don't do Sony products. Ironically, it was on one of the HD movie channels when I watched it.

TomHorn · « **Reply #34 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:37:11 PM »

Yes
The forearm is the most noticeable alteration to the yellowboy.
Because the Henry has the slot on the bottom of magtube, no forearm could be fitted...
Some Henry's were altered by gunsmiths in the field, kings patent loading gate, and wood forearm...

Yellowboy also had a stronger brass frame, and small improvements to the internal action... All to make the action strong enough to fire 44/40 rimfire.
And side loading of course...

The sweet 73, had the Iron (steel) frame, and Centerfire ammo...

No other type of rifle has ever had such a natural feel...
They mount to your shoulder easily, and seem to point right where
needed, like magik....

I just prefer the original design... so clean!!!!

TH

AKIron · « **Reply #35 on:** January 23, 2008, 09:39:55 PM »

I have a sony dream somethingorother sytem somewhere in my garage I wasted over 400 bucks on that lasted about a year before the dvd player started hanging up so I have no warm feelings towards sony but I do like the Blu-ray player in my PS3. Some people (like me) just nevar learn.

SIG220 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 24, 2008, 01:00:31 AM »

OK, here is a real pic of a Henry Big Boy Deluxe Edition.

I would say that the gun qualifies as being pretty.

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SIG220 · « **Reply #37 on:** January 24, 2008, 01:19:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Bingolong
I agree the real henrys had no forward stock

but they did have Bling
There is probable some stupid law that dosnt allow it any more

No, you can buy guns that are accurate copies of the original Henry rifle. As many here have pointed out, the Henry Big Boy is really not at all a true reproduction of the original Henry Model. I'm really disappointed that the SASS even allows them in shooting competitions, because of that fact. Only guns designed before 1900 are normally allowed by the SASS at their shoots.

Here below is an accurate Henry reproduction from Cimarron Firearms:

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SIG220 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 24, 2008, 01:28:48 AM »

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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
What are these rifles for, hunting?

Few people would take this type of rifle hunting.

This type of rifle is popular in the American sport of Cowboy Action Shooting. This is a sport where people dress up like cowboys and get to show off their skill in shooting Cowboy era guns at targets.

Here is a photo of a very well armed Cowboy shooting in a match:

OOZ662 · « **Reply #39 on:** January 24, 2008, 02:27:39 AM »

"It's a nice gun, I'll give you that. But the engraving gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever. Unless you were planning to auction it off as a collector's item. And you're forgetting one more very basic thing...you don't have what it takes to kill me."

And SIG...apologies if that's someone dear to you, but god, she looks like a deer in the headlights and a one of those robot-maids with gun nipples shoved into one...it's...scary...

Leslie · « **Reply #40 on:** January 24, 2008, 02:44:28 AM »

Bet that barrel got hot mighty fast on the Henry. Were there any tricks the shooter's used to deal with that? I'd probably carry along a potholder or rag or something. Sure seems a forestock could have been designed with a groove to accommodate the magtube components. Then again it looks neat without a forestock. Was it chambered for 44-40? How does that compare to today's .44 magnum?

I like the looks of the unengraved Henrys. Some styles of engraving look better on a less shiney surface imo, i.e. the shinier the surface, the less detail can be distinguished by our eyes. A matter of preferences I suppose.

I don't know how brass patinas, but it would look nice for the brass to patina brown. I don't have the guts to monkey around with a nice rifle, but there are books describing how to patina brass, and the chemicals used (which may be corrosive and require gloves when handling.)

Might could even call Henry Repeating Arms and find out how to do it if that's what you wanted. Brass may patina to brown naturally. Fingerprints would probably be a nuisance during the process. Do the Henry receivers eventually patina to brown? They may look a little like bling at first, but there may be a reason for that.

That's a very nice rifle Lazs. Hope you're not gonna "baby" it. Nothing worse than babying a rifle. You could deer hunt with that rifle. A little Kiwi clear shoe polish rubbed on the stock will protect it from moisture (if it rains.) I think anything more than 700 ft/lbs striking force at impact is adequate for deer. I'd use the iron sights and not bother with a scope on that rifle. I wonder what the 25 yard target grouping would be with open sights?

Les

Jackal1 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 24, 2008, 04:30:58 AM »

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Originally posted by SIG220
Few people would take this type of rifle hunting.

<----------One of the few.

TomHorn · « **Reply #42 on:** January 24, 2008, 07:00:18 AM »

Original Henry rifles, the 17 shooters, fired 44 Henry rimfire. (black powder)
Powerfull enough to kill men, but nothing to jump up and down over...

Original Yellowboys fired 44/40 rimfire. (black powder)
More powerful cartridge, but developed from the original.
Started showing its true potential...

The 73, fired 44/40 centerfire. (black powder)
Also 45colt because many ppl demanded it fire the same ammo as their
Colt SA Army revolver.... But Colt made the pistol in 44/40 WCF too...

Modern repops like mine, fire modern smokeless ammo...
45colt for me....

LOL, yes it will kill deer easily!!!!

Roll engraving doesn't add any significant value to the rifle...
Unless you are $$$ stupid....

Real hand engraving, can put a rifle out of financial reach very quickly...
Wall hangers!!!! Kinda like Hangar queens!!!

TH

SIG220 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 24, 2008, 08:35:32 AM »

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Originally posted by OOZ662
"It's a nice gun, I'll give you that. But the engraving gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever. Unless you were planning to auction it off as a collector's item. And you're forgetting one more very basic thing...you don't have what it takes to kill me."

And SIG...apologies if that's someone dear to you, but god, she looks like a deer in the headlights and a one of those robot-maids with gun nipples shoved into one...it's...scary...

Those photos were from the SHOTSHOW, which is the annual trade convention for the gun industry in the USA.

The gal holding the Cimarron Arms rifle was just a trade show bimbo that they hired to work the convention.

Gunblast.com is an excellent resource for gun news and gun reviews.

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lazs2 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 24, 2008, 09:43:41 AM »

what horn??? winchester never made a 45 colt chambered lever action... How can you even be seen with such a phony?

Point is.. the Henry co is a modern company that bought the original name. contrary to what the expert horn says.. the modern big boy has nothing at all to do with a 1866 winchester.. it is a solid frame gun that has an action that is more like a marlin 336 than anything. Solid frame... side ejection.

akiron.. I am not a good shot with a rifle..

All lever guns are fragile and complex. They are very suceptible to anything getting into the action and making them useless.. they are not particularly accurate or strong (although the one piece frames with side ejection like the big boy are the stoutest)

The original Henry shot a very weak 44 rimfire... the "yellowboy" winchester had a weak lockup.. No winchester was chambered for the 44-40 till about 1878 and no winchester was ever chambered for a 45 colt. The original henry did not have a forearm because it couldn't.. the follower in the mag tube (a buttonhead) moved backward to chamber a new round.. even a badly placed hand would jam everything up.

The gun is "carbine" length octogon barrel and weighs more than other lever guns or copies of the era.

I have thousands of 44 mag rounds and reload for it so it seemed a natural.

A worn out '92 winchester is slick but.. nothing is as slick as the action on a Henry. Go to a gun store and try one.

lazs