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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2008, 11:20:19 PM »
Yeager remember that you need a warrant to use the evidence in court.
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Indeed!  Still, when it comes to preventing an attack using presumably, weapons of mass destruction, I dont care about courts, but you are indeed correct.

I recently read a book on J. Robert Oppeheimer and you would not believe the garbage Hoover did to the guy with illegal phone taps and illegal collection of evidence.  They could have cared less about the legality of it, they just wanted dirt to destroy the man.

Im currently reading the 9/11 committee report and they are going into great detail about how the intelligence gathering agencies were totally screwed pre 9/11 due to FISA.  Im still trying to put all that together.  A real legal spiderweb that mess was/is.
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2008, 11:36:25 PM »
Intel is one thing. Evidence in court is something completely different.
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2008, 12:54:39 AM »
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Yeager remember that you need a warrant to use the evidence in court. Now if you don't plan on taking the guy to court why would you need a warrant? You might want to let the Pacific International Fruit Export Company take the case.  Know what I mean? nudge, nudge, wink, wink...

You let warrantless searches become evidence in court and you have just taken a huge crap on 230 years of integrity and being the good guys.


If you REALLY think that we've had 230 years of integrity, there are much worse things happening besides warrantless searches.
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2008, 01:44:44 AM »
I don't see anything else more important or lasting at the moment.
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Re: Re: Cheney Calls for Permanent Warrantless Wiretapping
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2008, 01:49:46 AM »
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You honestly think that if this passes that it would not be abused in the future, especially for political gain? Remember, Hillary could be at the controls in less than a year. What could she do with warrantless wiretaps?
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2008, 02:55:58 AM »
Nixon was a man ahead of his time.
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