Phase 3--Family Room remodel started Saturday

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Only one power outlet was raised up to eye level, that was the one for the LCD TV above the fireplace.

im talking about the "standard" hight that dred said the outlets by the french doors has.

why did it change from floor level to that high up?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Nilsen
im talking about the "standard" hight that dred said the outlets by the french doors has.

why did it change from floor level to that high up?

Dred is correct, the picture of the french doors, the electrical outlets are standard height.  At least every house I've lived in for 48 years they've been about that height, plus or minus an inch...

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Dred is correct, the picture of the french doors, the electrical outlets are standard height.  At least every house I've lived in for 48 years they've been about that height, plus or minus an inch...

yes but what was the reason for changing the standard from low to high?

[DREDIOCK]

I dont know the reason exactly.
Common sense provides me with one though.

Water conducts electricity rather well LOL

I've seen some really old houses that had the outlets in the floor...literally

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Nilsen
yes but what was the reason for changing the standard from low to high?

"What we have here is a failure to communicate..."
--Cool Hand Luke



Sorry I'm not being very clear, Nilsen.

These outlets were not changed. Construction standards in the USA traditionally have outlets at 12-16" above the level of the floor. Does that explain it?  My guess is that it is a safety standard, such in case that there is water pipe burst, that the water does not enter the electrical outlet, thus electrocuding the occupants.

[Nilsen]

We are now partly on the same page



Yes i was wondering why at some point the standard changed. It hasnt here. I am also guessing that it may be incase you get a busted waterpipe or if the house is buildt in places were you may get flooding.

I guess it hasnt changed here because as i understand it not all houses in America has basements/cellars and are also some times buildt in wet areas. Waterheaters and whatnot are usually down in the basements here but i have seen them them on the first floor (atleast in movies) in america.

America is not the EU so usually building codes and rules over there are changed for a reason unlike in the EU areas were its just done to piss people off.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Nilsen
We are now partly on the same page



Yes i was wondering why at some point the standard changed. It hasnt here. I am also guessing that it may be incase you get a busted waterpipe or if the house is buildt in places were you may get flooding.

I guess it hasnt changed here because as i understand it not all houses in America has basements/cellars and are also some times buildt in wet areas. Waterheaters and whatnot are usually down in the basements here but i have seen them them on the first floor (atleast in movies) in america.

America is not the EU so usually building codes and rules over there are changed for a reason unlike in the EU areas were its just done to piss people off.

  Oh yes...yes, they change them here just to piss us off as well!

One of the good changes in recent memory is the R factor requirements for insulation. This helps a house retain heat thus reduces its "carbon footprint" if you will.

[REP0MAN]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
My guess is that it is a safety standard, such in case that there is water pipe burst, that the water does not enter the electrical outlet, thus electrocuding the occupants.

Poor spelling but the nail got hit on the head here.

That is standard building code for electrical outlets. And, it is to prevent issues with minor flooding and power meeting and having a conducive relationship.

Cable, and phone, outlets should be 12-18" from any power outlet as well. Electical interference can cause low frequency ghosting and in some cases, packet loss if the noise floor is raised over -20dBmV. I have fought some hard nosed battles with customers that swear their issue is caused by our plant when, in fact, it is their own electrical outlets that cause the issue.

We just spent 5k furnishing our new house here in BA, Ok. I'll have to toss some pics up here in a few days when the crap gets here.

Looks great Rip!

[Ripsnort]

Phase 3 completed!

Before



After

[texasmom]

niiiiiice. looks super

[LePaul]

I think you just inspired me into doing something similar to my basement.  I like the shelving.  

I am finding that having a one story home (ranch-style) with 2 kids, its hard to "escape".  I would also like to see the computers go downstairs into a family room, maybe expanding the kitchen into part of the living room.  

Phase one for me would be replacing the 51 year old furnace with one that can multi-fuel capable (bio, oil, etc).  The refinish the basement, heat it and double the living space.

But before all that, I need to get out from under this dang adjustable rate mortgage.  The rates dropped nicely last week and hoping they do so again with the most recent cut.  I need to pull a free credit report somewhere and make sure all is well

[AKIron]

Looks great Rip. I like the colors. Guessing your unlikely to be transferred out of the area?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by AKIron
Looks great Rip. I like the colors. Guessing your unlikely to be transferred out of the area?

Thanks Iron. I'm pretty secure here..and I retire in 11 years. We're planning on making this our retirement house until we can't go up and down stairs anymore.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by LePaul
I think you just inspired me into doing something similar to my basement.  I like the shelving.  

I am finding that having a one story home (ranch-style) with 2 kids, its hard to "escape".  I would also like to see the computers go downstairs into a family room, maybe expanding the kitchen into part of the living room.  

Phase one for me would be replacing the 51 year old furnace with one that can multi-fuel capable (bio, oil, etc).  The refinish the basement, heat it and double the living space.

But before all that, I need to get out from under this dang adjustable rate mortgage.  The rates dropped nicely last week and hoping they do so again with the most recent cut.  I need to pull a free credit report somewhere and make sure all is well

It's a great time to lock in LePaul. Do it!

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by texasmom
niiiiiice. looks super

Do you like the colors? The wife was the picker of the tile on the floor and the granite around the fireplace...I wanted to stay with red oak around the fireplace and bookshelves so that was my decision..Red Oak it will be back in style again one day