Will The P39 Be Another Hanger Queen In The LWM?

[Bronk]

Originally posted by IronDog
The 390 mph was done with a turbocharger,at a higher altitude,like 20 k.376 was what the P39 could do after removal of the turbocharger.In real life the P39 could turn quite well,and climb was good.It's range was poor,but it could take a lot of damage.The P39 will fit in ok at the low alts that most fights occur in AH,but it will be a challenge to match the LaLas,Yaks etc.It just depends how HTC models the P39Q.It had many variants,and I hope we players have a chance to use the many variations.No wing pods,20mm verse the worthless 37mm etc.Anyway I'm looking forward to it's arrival.
IronDog

Hmmm

Originally posted by Widewing
376 mph reflects MIL power, not WEP (combat power).

See the chart below. Note that the power setting for the P-39Q at 376 mph is MIL power, which is (1,125 hp), not WEP (1,420 hp).



My regards,

Widewing

Was capable of 376 without wep. If  wep adds about 10 mph, (as it does with most AC) 386 mph is not far off 390mph.

Edit: not at 20k either.

[IronDog]

I need someone that knows their stuff to correct me if I'm wrong,but the P39 couldn't reach 390 mph w/o a turbocharger.Biggles stated that it could.Maybe in a dive it could,as it had excellent dive capabilities.It is interesting to note that a stripped down P39Q won the big Reno air race in 1946.

IronDog

[Bronk]

Irondog just look at the chart. It is exactly the same in AHT.
Without wep at approx 12k the Q did approx 376mph.

[Widewing]

I enjoy flying the less-than-uber aircraft. When its released, I'm going to take the P-39Q offline and explore its entire envelope. I'll record the data. Then, I'll take it to TA and wring it out against other trainers and some MA regulars. When I'm comfortable that I know everything there is to learn, I'll go to a LWA and make as many people as possible regret that HTC added it to the plane set.

It should have similar speed to the Bf 109F-4 on the deck, but will be in the top rankings at 9,000 feet where it will be as fast or faster than the Typhoon and P-47N. It will be significantly faster than the Spit XVI and F4U-1D. Its wing loading will be slightly lower than the Bf 109F-4, and it will climb at roughly the same rate as the Spit IX from sea level to 10k.

This fighter will get plenty of use, but it will be a demanding aircraft, keeping the numbers down to about those of the Yak-9T, Ki-61 and C.205.

My regards,

Widewing

[zoozoo]

Originally posted by VansCrew1
People assume the P39 will suck because it dose not have a lot of ammo. Truth of the matter is the .50 Cal's alone are good for at least 3 kills if not more. It dose not have uber canon or uber Mg's to spray and pray and hope that it will hit the plane and do damage. The P39 will be a great challenge for people to learn to fly and learn to fight against. I for one look forward to the challenge of not a lot of ammo and the challenge of flying a new plane.

to HTC & and to Greebo and Fester who spent their time on this.

 

I look foward to shooting all the p39's down

[Citabria]

i don't fly the b25c because its as defenseless as a c47 from low 6 attacks where all players in ah attack buffs from.

but I love flying the b25H as it is mean green and loaded to the teeth.

the 3d model for the p39 is awsome. its got very accurate texturemapping inside and out...

who cares if its a dog. that will make it a great plane for the experts.

its all about looking good and flying and dying with style

[The Fugitive]

I still think it will look better with a cobra on the door !!  Please Fester....you got time to skin now don't cha?  

[Kazaa]

Originally posted by Guppy35
I took it a step further based on your implication that if it's not one that will be flown all the time, what's the point.  Quoting:

"Seeing it in the hanger when your scrolling down doesn't count  

But on a serious note, the B-25 was flown hard core for the 1st day of its release. Now only a dedicated handful will give it the time of day.

If it doesn't collect dust in the hanger then that's great, but if it does then why not add something that will get more then 15 minutes of fame. Like the B-29 "


BTW you deleted your first reponse quickly

The problem is the fact that you are implying something that is clearly untrue, I'm very happy that HTC are about to add another aircraft to the game which I've esspeacially enjoyed playing for about the last 3 years. But clearly, if you read my post correctly, the point that I was trying to make was not one of "why bother" but "why not". Why not add a plane that will get more then its 15 minutes of fame and be enjoyed by many in the long run, only if the answer to my first question was true. "Will it be another hanger queen in the LWM".

The reason I deleted my first post was because I knew that I would never get my point across by saying "lol that made me laugh". Even if it was true, as you totally misconstrued what I said.

Right, I'm off to bed Guppy35, I will most likely read your very informative reply in the morning, which I will then attempt to reply back, but with my normal poor spelling and grammar.

[Connery]

Originally posted by thndregg
I've got to absolutely agree with you on this. I suppose it's only human nature to always and only fly the top performance planes and not challenge yourself to fly something a bit on the weak side. As much as I realize the top-end Spits, La7's, Typhoons, etc... are sweet planes, I rarely fly them. I like the challenge of getting a couple kills with something like the Yaks (which don't have loads of ammo). That's what this game holds for me; loads of different planes to experiment and have fun with, win or lose. (I mostly lose.)

ThndrEgg how do you define a top performance plane. You know as well as I do that ANY plane in the right hands can be as devastating as the next.

[splitatom]

Originally posted by Kazaa
Should we save it a spot right next to the B-25 ?

the b 25 isnt a hanger queen it is used alot

[splitatom]

Originally posted by Citabria
i don't fly the b25c because its as defenseless as a c47 from low 6 attacks where all players in ah attack buffs from.

but I love flying the b25H as it is mean green and loaded to the teeth.

the 3d model for the p39 is awsome. its got very accurate texturemapping inside and out...

who cares if its a dog. that will make it a great plane for the experts.

its all about looking good and flying and dying with style

wait you mean there is 2 or 3 modles that you are made for the p-39

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Kazaa
The problem is the fact that you are implying something that is clearly untrue, I'm very happy that HTC are about to add another aircraft to the game which I've esspeacially enjoyed playing for about the last 3 years. But clearly, if you read my post correctly, the point that I was trying to make was not one of "why bother" but "why not". Why not add a plane that will get more then its 15 minutes of fame and be enjoyed by many in the long run, only if the answer to my first question was true. "Will it be another hanger queen in the LWM".

The reason I deleted my first post was because I knew that I would never get my point across by saying "lol that made me laugh". Even if it was true, as you totally misconstrued what I said.

Right, I'm off to bed Guppy35, I will most likely read your very informative reply in the morning, which I will then attempt to reply back, but with my normal poor spelling and grammar.

Ahh, my mistake.  I thought long and hard before replying, cause it didn't sound like something you'd normally say.

I got thrown off by the "in all seriousness" part of the line

Dern English sarcasm going right over the top of me again.  Not the first time and won't be the last no doubt:D

[moot]

Originally posted by Kazaa
Why not add a plane that will get more then its 15 minutes of fame and be enjoyed by many in the long run, only if the answer to my first question was true. "Will it be another hanger queen in the LWM".

The P39 will get more than 15min of fame.  Something tells me you're going to get shot down by it more than a few times.

[thndregg]

Originally posted by Connery
ThndrEgg how do you define a top performance plane. You know as well as I do that ANY plane in the right hands can be as devastating as the next.

I hear ya' there, as I have fought against some damn good sticks, such as those that know the P40. I'm simply saying for the ones that haven't stretched out to try the early rides, it's a real hoot when you finally land a couple kills in some relative piece of &$%* pea-shooter aircraft.

[AWwrgwy]

Originally posted by Citabria
the 3d model for the p39 is awsome. its got very accurate texturemapping inside and out...

who cares if its a dog.

Originally posted by splitatom
wait you mean there is 2 or 3 modles that you are made for the p-39

3D(imensional)      

I guess you read like you post.



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