Author Topic: Romney out (Read 977 times)

john9001 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:28:29 PM »

this election is pretty simple, if you want Iraq to turn into another Vietnam vote for hillary/obama.

Shamus · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:44:57 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
this election is pretty simple, if you want Iraq to turn into another Vietnam vote for hillary/obama.

It already is..in spades.

shamus

john9001 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:47:02 PM »

you need to update your news service.

AKIron · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2008, 09:50:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Shamus
It already is..in spades.

shamus

Only if we pull out and let Iran/Taliban/Religious Zealots take over. We're still in Germay and South Korea and it's relatively painless. Iraq is growing less painless. Pulling out of South Vietnam was painless neither for us nor the millions murdered in the region as a result.

er, Iraq is growing less painful

never mix whiskey and rum, unless you run out of whiskey

rpm · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2008, 10:12:59 PM »

If we only had someone with some serious military experience in charge when it counted, Iraq would have never been the quagmire it is.

AKIron · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2008, 10:20:20 PM »

Iraq today is probably much like it would have been a couple of years ago had we applied the proper force then. Mistakes were made and lives lost as result. The situation has been corrected. Anyone who thinks we can defeat Islamic facism in a couple of years is ignoring hundreds of years of history or needs to be willing to use nukes.

john9001 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2008, 10:35:53 PM »

Lincoln.

If I only had someone with some serious military experience in charge when it counted, the civil war would have never been the quagmire it is.

rpm · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2008, 11:03:42 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
Lincoln.

If I only had someone with some serious military experience in charge when it counted, the civil war would have never been the quagmire it is.

The Civil War only lasted 4 years and had 2 combatants.

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2008, 11:48:48 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Only if we pull out and let Iran/Taliban/Religious Zealots take over. We're still in Germay and South Korea and it's relatively painless. Iraq is growing less painless. Pulling out of South Vietnam was painless neither for us nor the millions murdered in the region as a result.

er, Iraq is growing less painful

never mix whiskey and rum, unless you run out of whiskey

Unfortunately, there is a world of difference, between Iraq, and the situation in Germany/South Korea.

The situation in Germany/R.O.K. stemmed' from having hostile OUTSIDE neighbors, who were driven and equipped by our chief nemesis during the cold war-the U.S.S.R.

Iraq is a country that we recently invaded, and overthrew the government of. A Non-extremist, albeit ruthless and dictatorial one.

In Germany/R.O.K., The U.S. could probably leave tomorrow, letting those countries' look after themselves. Germany would probably be ok. The R.O.K. Still faces' a hardline communist regime, that could possibly be backed up by the new Communist superpower-China-and they more than likely still want the help of the U.S. To deter any possible aggression from their northern cousins.

But such is not the case with Iraq.

It faces more insurgency. It has to cope with the fact that very few other nations' in the area, have a non-theology based form of Gov't. And that is what these people...well, seem to cherish.

We'll be there forever, propping up a pro-western gov't. I don't see any way that any gov't. we install, will stand up on it's own, without a significant U.S. presence. All it will take is a coup, as soon as the U.S. force levels' are down low enough. It would be 1979 all over again.

LePaul · « **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2008, 12:45:12 AM »

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Originally posted by bj229r
McCain has a better chance of beating one of them because he IS one of them

Word.

MORAY37 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 08, 2008, 12:53:24 AM »

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Originally posted by john9001
this election is pretty simple, if you want Iraq to turn into another Vietnam vote for hillary/obama.

Hilarious. Some people just eat up the party line.

The surge was supposed to allow the Iraqis to reconstitute their government... and what did they do? They took a vacation.

Now they are acting like that washed up cousin that comes to your house to stay "a few days" cuz he lost his job...

...and still doesn't have one 5 months later, sittin on the couch eatin your doritos and watchin "Judge Judy" while you're at work supportin the *******.

We need to move the hell on. These people don't want what we're shoving down their throats.

john9001 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 08, 2008, 07:48:36 AM »

that's not the party line, thats my line.

myelo · « **Reply #27 on:** February 08, 2008, 08:06:50 AM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Meaning he stand the best chance in the slim or no chance the republican party has of winnning in 08.

Never underestimate the ability of the democrats to screw up an election.

Romney pulling out allows the GOP to start concentrating on the general election -- organization, money, lining up support and so on. Despite all the current whining, the party will quickly fall in line now that their nominee is clear.

Meanwhile Hilary v. Obama is going to be a slugfest. They will each spend millions attacking each other and could possibly even go to Denver with no consensus. A protracted delegate fight would be a disaster for the dems -- by then whoever is the nominee could be so far behind they will never catch up.

lazs2 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 08, 2008, 08:14:29 AM »

yep.. billary is obsessed with winning.. she would tie the whole democratic party to a stake and set it on fire if it would mean she would win. I don't think you want to see her when she is desperate and/or angry.

osamabama will look like a fool when the republicans tell everyone how much he is going to charge each and every one of the lower middle class and the middle class to fund all his programs.

they are setting the stage now by making anyone who wants to "end the war" admit that they mean cut and run.. if they say they won't cut and run...

Then they have no "peace dividend" to flush down the social welfare toilet and they need to add more burden on to the middle class.. if they tax the "rich" they won't get enough and they will slow the economy that tax cuts heated up.

A pleasant voice and promises of utopia only play well to the choir when people start asking how you are gonna pay for it.

lazs

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #29 on:** February 08, 2008, 08:18:45 AM »

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Originally posted by myelo
Never underestimate the ability of the democrats to screw up an election.

Romney pulling out allows the GOP to start concentrating on the general election -- organization, money, lining up support and so on. Despite all the current whining, the party will quickly fall in line now that their nominee is clear.

Meanwhile Hilary v. Obama is going to be a slugfest. They will each spend millions attacking each other and could possibly even go to Denver with no consensus. A protracted delegate fight would be a disaster for the dems -- by then whoever is the nominee could be so far behind they will never catch up.

I understand what your saying.
But I think the country as a whole do not want another republican in the Whitehouse after Bush.

IMO The Democrates have so conditioned the public to detest Bush that/and Bush has so poisoned the republican party. That the Republicans have next to no shot of winning no matter who the Democrats put up or how long it takes them to do it.

McCain only stands a chance because of his more moderate stand.
But he is being hurt by the "R" word.

Just as Democrates were hurt by the liberal word.

To be fair. Bush helped the Democrats push that poison with his own antics.

In the end Its only hurt the party in the country as a whole.