Author Topic: Berkeley secedes from the union (or attempts to) (Read 1783 times)

FrodeMk3 · « **Reply #45 on:** February 09, 2008, 06:44:22 PM »

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Originally posted by lutrel
I personally feel we would have a better civillian population in our country if it was manditory to serve our nation in one of the armed forces for a term of three years. Our young men and women would benifit from the experiance of boot camp.

On the flip side, I'd hate to be the sargeant that had to deal with some of these rejects that would come through; speaking from experiance, there is a lot to be said for our all volunteer force.

It works' for the Swiss, and a couple of other Euro countries, though.

As to how they manage with the mass of kids' who might not particularly want to be there, is anyone's guess.

If we were to do something like that, we would have some diffuculty, I believe.

Rino · « **Reply #46 on:** February 09, 2008, 07:17:14 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
i don't know why the Marines would want to recruit anyone from Berkley, the Marines need men not little girly boys.

Minefield detectors?

Seriously though, if someone is willing to enlist in a place chock full of people
like Bezerkly, I say more power to em!

Donzo · « **Reply #47 on:** February 09, 2008, 07:47:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Trell
Guess all those ads i see on tv telling me to call 800 go army must be for something else..

Troll,

You are correct, sir! Those ads ARE for something else...the Army. The topic of discussion is a Marines recruiting station.

Shuckins · « **Reply #48 on:** February 09, 2008, 08:32:41 PM »

So much for "supporting the troops." It appears their true feelings about the military, unwillingly held in check since 2001, are at last breaking free of all restraint.

Some of you folks might want to bone up on the U.S. Constitution....specifically Article VI. It states: "This Constitution and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof...or which shall be made under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land...anything in the Constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."

That means that if the USMC, which is under the control of our duly elected officials in the federal government as established by the Constitution, decides to open a recruiting office in any U.S. city, they will do so. Period.

Try telling the U.S. Congress that the city of Berkely has the right to send the recruiters packing. The mirth will cross party lines.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #49 on:** February 09, 2008, 09:59:38 PM »

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Originally posted by eagl
Never count on a liberal to recognize any moral obligations other than their own, based on the emotional arguments of the day. It's pretty much their defining characteristic, that their moral obligations are determined entirely on their own personal emotional experiences. Whether or not excluding lessons of history, real factual evidence, or the opinions of others is deliberate or a side-effect of ignorance (not stupidity, but ignorance... ie. a lack of knowledge) is open to debate.

This should be carved in stone and put up for all to see. Awesome.

AKIron · « **Reply #50 on:** February 09, 2008, 10:02:05 PM »

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Originally posted by DiabloTX
This should be carved in stone and put up for all to see. Awesome.

It would be better to grant them a view of reality that would change their perspective. No idea how to do that though.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #51 on:** February 09, 2008, 10:03:26 PM »

Well, it'd be a helluva start in my eyes.

LePaul · « **Reply #52 on:** February 09, 2008, 10:09:05 PM »

Berkeley is playing a dangerous game and not thinking about the consequences. And they can't have it both ways.

I've been following the media stories about this. What I find intriguing is that the kooks there feel their freedom of speech is being upended because...get this...their speech, AND ACTIONS, have dire consequences.

As citizens, sure, they can have their say all they want. But when they go out of their way (Pink Zone parking out front?) to show their bias in the local government, then the gloves should come off.

To their credit, the Marines have bit their tongues and let this play out.

But between Berkeley's recent actions, and San Fran trying to ban Fleet Week...its just a bit much.

AKIron · « **Reply #53 on:** February 09, 2008, 10:30:13 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
Berkeley is playing a dangerous game and not thinking about the consequences. And they can't have it both ways.

I've been following the media stories about this. What I find intriguing is that the kooks there feel their freedom of speech is being upended because...get this...their speech, AND ACTIONS, have dire consequences.

As citizens, sure, they can have their say all they want. But when they go out of their way (Pink Zone parking out front?) to show their bias in the local government, then the gloves should come off.

To their credit, the Marines have bit their tongues and let this play out.

But between Berkeley's recent actions, and San Fran trying to ban Fleet Week...its just a bit much.

I think the Marines are pretty good at maintaining discipline in the face of adversity. A few fat loud mouths aren't likely to provoke much of a reaction.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 10, 2008, 04:41:18 AM »

If Berkely secedes may I be the first to put my name in the hat for the role of General Sherman this time around.

I'm gonna torch the Birkenstock store, the headshop, and Code Stink first if selected.

the only good hippy is a dead hippy.

Scatcat · « **Reply #55 on:** February 12, 2008, 11:05:51 AM »

"The Rev. Fred Phelps, the anti-gay activist and founder of the Westboro Baptist Church, will be there as well, demonstrating against both the Marines and Code Pink."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,330419,00.html

Its really getting strange now. Whats next hehe.

LePaul · « **Reply #56 on:** February 12, 2008, 11:46:24 AM »

He just wants media attention

And a beating.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 12, 2008, 12:12:40 PM »

Bizerkly should be burned to the ground and then the ground salted.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #58 on:** February 12, 2008, 07:34:50 PM »

Here you go guys.

This should get you good and riled up. Look! How incredibly stupid these people are!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmdrkmtkCw4

They are a bunch of morons. A fringe element, not dissimilar to KKK members or White Supremacists on the right. Ivory Tower types... what does the O'Club like to say... oh yeah, femi-nazis.

A shame, really, because they just provide fodder for the wingnut right, an easy target to try and paint a broad brush strokes with.

"See", the Limbaughs of the world say, "liberals HATE the troops".

Sigh.

It makes a much sense as saying that all white conservatives secretly hate blacks, because Trent Lott stood up at Strom Thurmonds 100th birthday bash and said we all should have voted for Thurmond in 1948, then we "wouldn't have had all these problems".

(Thurmond's party ran under a platform that declared in part, "We stand for the segregation of the races and the racial integrity of each race.")

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/12/09/lott.comment/

Also, the university itself has no affiliation with Code pink, so threatening to pull funding for research going on there makes no sense either. It was the city government that gave them a parking space in front of the recruitment office. Take the fed funding from the city, not the school.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #59 on:** February 12, 2008, 08:02:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Trell
are you implying Berkeley tax dollars don't pay for the USMC ?

Are you recruiting people that have never heard of the internet? you make it sound like that recruiting office is the only place they can get information.
phones, internet, even other recruiting stations.

Not everyone has access to a phone, television or the Internet, so for these people a recruiting station is the only way for them to get information.

ack-ack