cowards! ;-)

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by waystin2
Please Kong never assume that I will dismiss out of hand a good conversation.  I do see what is being suggested.  The silly comes in when you actually think that both sides would willingly telegraph their plans of attack.  I just do not see this happening.  If both sides did this, I would be all for it.  I would love to hear comments from both Truekill & Chapel on this.

I see this as a "time out" idea, and a good one.  As TK mentioned, he and Filth used to do exactly this sort of thing.  It makes for a lot of fun.  Obviously it does virtually nothing to win the war (unless, of course, the mission is a huge success), but it's the closest thing to reenacting WWII aerial combat that you're likely to see in this game.  It only works if both sides know roughly where and when things are going to happen; otherwise, as...um...Heythere relates, the mission is likely to be unopposed or only lightly opposed.

This map, btw, is ideal for this sort of thing, since both sides have air starts within a reasonable range of each other.  Very possible to get a 25k B-17 group together with 51 and 47 escort, intercepted by 109s and FWs, and makes for quite an experience when it happens.

So, if you think the war can pause for an hour, you might give thought to trying this out.

- oldman

[1redrum]

so i am to understand that only 100% destruction scores ,,, i must say that i disagree with this , i do agree however to earn a full point it should be brought down to zero. so make it score from 0.01 to 1 , say a attack knocks a strat down to 25% then shouldn't the attacking team be awarded 0.75 points?

[XAKL]

Originally posted by heythere
this might be difficult to tabulate and confirm for the points to be awarded but this type of incentive could be a good vehicle for further growth of the style of play evolving within the AvA.

or not

I'll say this, if you can start behaving more civil and using 200 to be more constructive instead of vile and insulting, that in itself would provide as U say "further growth of the style of play".  

MUGADAI of the MUNGADAI WARRIORS

[stodd]

Originally posted by KONG1
Yes, some of us actually like to fight, even (gasp) at a disadvantage, and will up at a base under attack just to mix it up. Since you can't conceive of this maybe you should try to figure out exactly what it is your missing. I could tell you but you would dismiss it off hand. Better that you figure it out for yourself.

I was offering an answer to why no one may have uped. I dont mind fighting with a disadvantage and often defend bases being attacked. Whats ur in game ID ive never heard of any1 by the name of kong1?

[Larry]

LMAO try KONG its not that hard to see.

[Stampf]

[captain1ma]

TK makes perfect sense. if we know they're coming and they want some action, just let us know and we'll prepare for them. they'll get all the action they want and maybe a little extra.

be fore-warned we have some expert bomber killers on the axis side.

just dont cry when the action goes our way and not the allieds way

[Tango]

Our squad was one of the escort groups in last nights mission. We may not have destroyed the factory but we all said it was a success since we all had a blast.

As for announcing where we take off and what the target is, I doubt you will see that. It ruins the fun for BOTH sides. Perfect example is the Avengers all poped into the AvA room one night and started flying 110s at one of the towns we just happened to be flying fighter cover. IF we had known they were coming and from what AF, it would have ruined the fun of going up wondering when and where the action was gonna hit.

We did try organizing raids like that in WW2OL by letting the Germans know when, where and what were gonna hit. Ended up have vultures taking off and vulching us as were were getting organized on the AF.

As for last night, the 109s and 190s that came in at us didn't seem organized. They kept coming in at us in ones and twos. We flew over 3 or 4 radar rings anda HUGE bardar before we hit the radar rings. Plenty of time to get up and organized as you climb up. What many players do is make the mistake of taking off from the AF right were the bombers are at. Try moving a couple of sectors over to a field that has a higher alt and fly towrd the possible bomber target. Far better than following in trail.

I will give you guys this much info. We won't be bombing a rear AF. It will be a strat target.

S! everyone that was involved in last nights battle. Looking forward to the ones coming up.

[bkwolf]

Scouts!!?  Have one plane or two in the air, in suppected hot spots to find the bomber force..or strike force and direct the killers in.They did do that in RL as well as radar.I like not being able to tell just where the "bad guy" is all the time.

...Tango>>>(snip)Perfect example is the Avengers all poped into the AvA room one night and started flying 110s at one of the towns we just happened to be flying fighter cover. IF we had known they were coming and from what AF, it would have ruined the fun of going up wondering when and where the action was gonna hit.

...see...thats the fun of it..thanks Tango

[Trukk]

Originally posted by heythere
The axis contended that the mission was pointless within the context of a game.

We flew a realistic, multi-squadron mission, watched the bombers hit a target, fought of the bandits as best we could, and overall had a great night in the AvA flying with (and against) the guys.  That's the only point within the context of this game for me and the guys I fly with.

[Tango]

Originally posted by Trukk
We flew a realistic, multi-squadron mission, watched the bombers hit a target, fought of the bandits as best we could, and overall had a great night in the AvA flying with (and against) the guys.  That's the only point within the context of this game for me and the guys I fly with.

Amen!

Bring on CT.

[Kten]

Originally posted by heythere
last night two or maybe three allied squads put up a combined bomber  the allied side contended that the mission was historic.  the axis contended that the mission was pointless within the context of a game.
 

Gamer vs Simmer always a hot debate in every game,

 you can't tell other people how to have fun. Each squad has players attracted to its style of play, wether its historical or vulch gangbang to each his own just enjoy.

[Chilli]

RADAR

[Larry]

Thats the thing. During the day they pork the radar so when people show up most of the front line bases are in the dark. For those that are saying that giving a heads up to the enemy is a bad thing. Its not like they are saying give them step by step details on where you are what alt your at and your speed. Just say on 200 "WARNING radar has detected enemy bomber in or around setor ##,##". If you again say thats dumb then you have never flown a old CT mission or FSO.

[Tango]

Originally posted by Larry
Its not like they are saying give them step by step details on where you are what alt your at and your speed. Just say on 200 "WARNING radar has detected enemy bomber in or around setor ##,##". If you again say thats dumb then you have never flown a old CT mission or FSO.

A BIG bardar 2 or 3 AFS back from the frontlines is a pretty good idea that there is a BIG group taking off. When we see one we go up and start doing a CAP  near the frontlines.