Author Topic: booze at Chuck E Cheese???? (Read 1829 times)

texasmom · « **Reply #30 on:** February 11, 2008, 09:45:30 AM »

Is it actually that unbelievable that I would oppose my kids being exposed to alcohol enough that I avoid taking them to places that serve alcohol? I'm sure I'm not the only parent who does that... There's no hidden agenda, no secret alternative reason, or sidebar concern. It's just what I already said it is.

JB73 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 11, 2008, 09:48:17 AM »

I will have to say

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and I don't want my kids going (to a kids entertainment center) and even be in an environment that shows alcohol as appropriate or acceptable.

that sounds a lot like putting blinders on saying "if I don't see it, it doesn't exist"

I don't propose you show kids intentionally something you consider "immoral" or wrong, but if you do attempt to shelter them too much I think one day they will see something and wonder...

Just my opinion

texasmom · « **Reply #32 on:** February 11, 2008, 09:51:41 AM »

It would be not at all realistic to think that my kids won't drink when they get a little bit older. EVERY kid drinks ~ every single one of them, no matter what you teach them when they're growing up.

But when they fall back to the examples set for them, and remember things they were taught earlier ~ that's what they're going to have to fall back on.

When it comes to smoking ~ once they start that... their fall back will be that it's completely acceptable (because txdad & I both smoke)... and that's a real shame ~ they'll see that it's totally okay ~ since their example showed them it was okay. At least with drinking when it's time to fall back, they'll have a better example to return to.

Chairboy · « **Reply #33 on:** February 11, 2008, 09:57:25 AM »

Seems like confusion between "setting a good example" and "failing to set any example at all". If you expose them to an environment where other people are drinking but you aren't, you have an opportunity to set an example that they can fall back on. If they never see alcohol, it's perfectly reasonable for them to assume that maybe you _do_ drink, but only when they're not around.

We're all responsible for our own lives and decide how we raise our kids, but it's interesting understanding why folks make the decisions that they do. I hope you don't see this as an attempt to strong-arm you into boozing it up or anything, I'm just honestly curious about how logically everything comes together.

Are you sure you're not confusing "setting a positive example" with "failing to set an example either way"?

REP0MAN · « **Reply #34 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:09:09 AM »

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Originally posted by texasmom
It would be not at all realistic to think that my kids won't drink when they get a little bit older. EVERY kid drinks ~ every single one of them, no matter what you teach them when they're growing up.

But when they fall back to the examples set for them, and remember things they were taught earlier ~ that's what they're going to have to fall back on.

When it comes to smoking ~ once they start that... their fall back will be that it's completely acceptable (because txdad & I both smoke)... and that's a real shame ~ they'll see that it's totally okay ~ since their example showed them it was okay. At least with drinking when it's time to fall back, they'll have a better example to return to.

TxMom, I speak as a father of three girls ages 13, 9 and 8.

I agree with your motives and your concerns mom. But, with the logic above, wouldn't it be better to educate your children about what alcohol does, how it affects your body/mind and how it can affect others people's lives around them (ie: drunk driving, alcoholism etc) and explain to them why you and Dad choose not to partake? I completely understand your desire to protect your kids from that world as long as you can but it will be an unfortunate wake-up call for them when they are suddenly thrusted into that environment the first time they hit a high school party. Then, they will default to what you have instilled in them from the beginning. If there is nothing to default to, they are left to peer-pressure and their own, adolescent, decision making ability. I teach my kids about such things so that they know the right decision and have a better chance to make that decision. Leading by example is a great parenting and life skill. But, they have no comparison or education about what alcohol does; just the memory that Mom and Dad don't do it. That may not be enough if your child is faced with severe peer-pressure to "try it".

Besides, Chuck-E-Cheese is just a kiddie-casino that teaches them the longer they feed the machine tokens (money), the more chance they have to win big! I think the Vegas Elite and Indian Tribes own all the Chuck-E-Cheese and other establishments like it. Training up future gambling addictions.

Rich46yo · « **Reply #35 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:12:38 AM »

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Originally posted by texasmom
Am I just uptight? I mean, I don't think at all that I am (of course)...

Nobody in our family drinks at all... and don't attend any social functions with our kids at which the adults will have booze.

But for a business that is in existence entirely for children ~ you should hope (I know... I just bashed "hope" in another thread recently) that you could go without a bunch of boozing parents.

Well Mom any woman that goes to a boozing Chucky Cheese, and gets victimized, is guilty for putting herself there. Right?

You give the animals who call themselves the Saudi Religious Police a pass for beating a woman having coffee with co-workers but you slam Chucky Cheese for allowing Free Americans to have a glass of beer on their kids B-day?

And your from Texas? Boy, the Texas I remember you can legally drive down the highways drinking road pops.

Airscrew · « **Reply #36 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:33:45 AM »

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Originally posted by REP0MAN
Besides, Chuck-E-Cheese is just a kiddie-casino that teaches them the longer they feed the machine tokens (money), the more chance they have to win big! I think the Vegas Elite and Indian Tribes own all the Chuck-E-Cheese and other establishments like it. Training up future gambling addictions.

I have been saying that for years. CEC and GattiTown, their game areas sound just like a casino...feed the machines money and get tickets for prizes...

As far as alcohol goes... I am on the local USBC board for bowling. I also coach kids on Saturday mornings. A long standing regulation under ABC and now USBC is no alcohol consumption or smoking in the bowling alleys during Youth Leages, Bowling tournaments, or any other functions for Youth even outside of bowling alleys (dinners, award banquets etc). The Boy Scouts have similar rules.

Airscrew · « **Reply #37 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:35:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
And your from Texas? Boy, the Texas I remember you can legally drive down the highways drinking road pops.

That was a long time ago... not anymore... for a long time...

midnight Target · « **Reply #38 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:40:40 AM »

Even Disneyland serves beer.

indy007 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:44:20 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Even Disneyland serves beer.

They give it away for free at Busch Gardens at the "complimentary houses".

Vipper65 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:54:18 AM »

I think I'd rather take a beating than have to take the kids to CEC's.

Rich46yo · « **Reply #41 on:** February 11, 2008, 11:16:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Airscrew
That was a long time ago... not anymore... for a long time...

Somehow I doubt road-popping has stopped in Texas.

Ive driven across it many times and if there was ever a time for road-popping its during drives across Texas.

I quit drinking 7 years ago but even I say bring on the beer to Chucky Cheese. This is America!

But, then again, I pretty much despise Goverment intrusion into our lives.

trax1 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 11, 2008, 11:40:40 AM »

Anyone remember Sho-Biz pizza, it was like Chuck E Cheese? Not sure if it was just in Texas or not. I wonder why they went outta business.

ChickenHawk · « **Reply #43 on:** February 11, 2008, 12:48:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Seems like confusion between "setting a good example" and "failing to set any example at all". If you expose them to an environment where other people are drinking but you aren't, you have an opportunity to set an example that they can fall back on. If they never see alcohol, it's perfectly reasonable for them to assume that maybe you _do_ drink, but only when they're not around.

You don't have to expose your children to an environment to teach them about it. Would you take your children to an orgy or to a drug party? Most reasonable people would not because it would do the children more harm then good.

TexasMom believes it would cause more harm than good and I applaud her resolve in the face of popular opinion.

Who knows, maybe she's trying to avoid them seeing a bunch of rednecks throwing pizza in the fans, stealing beer, crashing their vintage TransAm into a hapless pizza delivery car and leading the cop's on a high speed chase.

It could happen.

Shuffler · « **Reply #44 on:** February 11, 2008, 01:03:25 PM »

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Originally posted by texasmom
Is it actually that unbelievable that I would oppose my kids being exposed to alcohol enough that I avoid taking them to places that serve alcohol? I'm sure I'm not the only parent who does that... There's no hidden agenda, no secret alternative reason, or sidebar concern. It's just what I already said it is.

Nothing wrong with that at all. Raise your kids as you see fit..... it's called parenting. Not enough of it these days.

Now as far as not going to places that serve alcohol... that pretty much takes away every restaurant in this area. No baseball games...... no sports what-so-ever.