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Offline Larry

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2008, 05:32:53 PM »
I was messing with you jeeeez what a kill joy.:(



It doesnt fill a hole? You ever hear of BoB?
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2008, 05:36:13 PM »
A He-111H-4 would (with a couple of weapons packages) span from 1940 all the way to late 1943. After that the variants started getting more noticable.

That's a pretty big hole to fill! The Ju-88A4 we have in-game really only works for mid-1941. Maybe into early 1942. Too fast for early stuff, too weak/obsolete to be used against typhs, spit9+s, p47s, etc.

The He111 would fill a big hole in the early LW set, just like the B-25 fills a giant hole in the USAAF and RAF early war bombers.

Also, He111s were used as transports, they were used as paratroop transports, personnel transports, personal VIP craft for generals (and whatnot).

We could get a He111H with options to carry bombs, or troops, or field supplies! Imagine all that in one plane!
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2008, 06:43:07 PM »
please tell me that it can give free pie and kill sheep!
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2008, 07:58:59 PM »
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please tell me that it can give free pie and kill sheep!


It seriously wounds sheep and gives out free peach cobbler. Is that gonna be alright? :)
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2008, 07:59:10 PM »
Sorry Larry.  Missed the humor.  I've been a bit grouchy lately.

I am pro-hole filling.  I don't see the He111 filling any holes.  It adds depth of coverage, which is good, but not as good as filling holes.   The He111 never had anything like effective defences (not that any bomber armaments were really effective) and just got slower and heavier as the war progressed.  Krusty's list of He111s that are hole fillers, aren't really.  The Ju88A-4 can be used in those places too and have similar success or lack of it.

And I even agree that the He111 looks neat.  It has always been one of my favorite Luftwaffe bombers and it would have been my choice over the Ju88A-4 when they added a German bomber.

But right now I think a Ju188A-2 (which also looks great) would be a better addition.
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2008, 08:17:10 PM »
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It seriously wounds sheep and gives out free peach cobbler. Is that gonna be alright? :)


as long as i can wound sheep, thats good

but pie, I DEMAND IT
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2008, 08:31:54 PM »
Karnak, your right about the defensive capabilities of the 111. However it would make the number of bomber kills in BoB Scenarios alot more realistic lol
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2008, 11:13:21 PM »
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He111 would be kinda, sorta useful for scenarios.  A bit.

I'd rather see the Ju188A-2.  A good, mid-late war bomber with the firepower and speed to be useful later than 1940.

He111 = hangar queen in the mid and late war and duplicated coverage in early war and scenarios.  I do not understand the lust for this bomber.


BoB, enough said ;)
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2008, 11:33:17 PM »
I agree the He111 should be added, I just don't think it is the highest priority German bomber.

My position on it isn't that different.
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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2008, 11:52:07 PM »
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I don't see how CT can be completed without the he-111....


Well soda, since you prolly have more commensense in the fact that Aces High II isnt only about LW arenas, i completely agree with you.
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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2008, 01:10:39 AM »
CT is initially going to be set in the US Bomber offensive, so no, the He111 isn't needed at first.
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2008, 09:19:02 AM »
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Was it built in the USA? If not then NO!


:noid
 Well maybe we can get around that issue by painting them like this?
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2008, 10:44:19 PM »
LETS HAVE THE HE-111!!!!!! We need more german and japanese bombers, if we get the he-111 with the p-39, early and mid war is set, same with AvA
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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2008, 10:46:10 PM »
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LETS HAVE THE HE-111!!!!!! We need more german and japanese bombers, if we get the he-111 with the p-39, early and mid war is set, same with AvA

Better off? Sure.
Set? Far, far, far, far, away. The only planeset that we have that is 'set' is the latewar planeset.
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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2008, 10:49:43 PM »
Well atleast AvA (germans still missing bombers though....russians....bombers too)
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