Author Topic: Video card Settings (Read 1342 times)

Krusty · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2008, 12:38:33 AM »

7300 is WORSE than what you currently have.

VERTEX · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2008, 12:36:04 PM »

currently have an FX5700LE, you think a 7300GT is worse???

Please elaborate.

zmeg · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2008, 12:42:18 PM »

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Originally posted by VERTEX
currently have an FX5700LE, you think a 7300GT is worse???

Please elaborate.

Actually the 7300 GT is almost 3 times as fast.

VERTEX · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2008, 12:46:41 PM »

Now thats what I want to hear.

Thanks.

Krusty · « **Reply #19 on:** February 21, 2008, 01:05:47 PM »

Bah, you were talking about Ge6800s!!

I thought you HAD one!

The 7300 series is the modern equivelant of the FX line, i.e. bad ("cheap," "stripped down," "no power at all"). It may run AH (barely) but it's not nearly as good as a 6600, a 6800, a 7600, or a 7800/higher.

VERTEX · « **Reply #20 on:** February 21, 2008, 02:43:11 PM »

I was curious about the heat "problem reported on the 6800 cards,

and was wondering what the diff was between the 6800 XE and GT.

Many reviews ive read on the 6800 say they run really hot, was curoius if this was a real problem.

The FX5700le does an ok job with aces high, and was satisfied with it till I switched from a 17"CRT to a 22"lcd monitor.

If the 7300GT is 3 times faster than an FX5700LE I should be more than happy with it.

The FX5700LE lets me run at the highest resolution setting 1024 textures, and the range slider at full and detail at 50%. Generally frames are between 30 and 55 depending on how close I am to the ground.

When I set sliders full to the right, frames go to 50 - 60 and things really smooth out but cant see ground targets.

If the 7300GT makes up for this short coming I will be pleased.

Thanks.

Max · « **Reply #21 on:** February 21, 2008, 03:52:16 PM »

Vertex you can buy an Egva GForce 7600GT 256 MG card at Newegg for $65. I'm using one in my new home built and am quite pleased with it.

VERTEX · « **Reply #22 on:** February 21, 2008, 04:01:12 PM »

Problem is I'm canadian, although the dollar is at par, with shipping and brokerage fees at the border things get pricey.

In the fall I bought a set of CH rudder pedals, found them on line in the US for about 90 bucks, in stores here they are 149. Ordered some paid the shipping, but with a 35 brokerage fee I broke even.

The version of the 7600 available here is the GS, I understand the 7600GS and 7300 GT are close, and I could get the 7300GT for less. I would think the 7300GT will be significantly better than the 5700LE I have now.

When it comes to online shopping and the general availability of consumer goods for cheap, americans certainly have more to choose from.

Krusty · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2008, 04:12:05 PM »

You're not running 1024 textures on that card, at max res, I PROMISE you that.

Did you actually install the hi-res pack, or just choose the option from the menu without installing the add-on files?

If you didn't install it, you're not running it. Without the missing files you're running at 512 (even though it says 1024).

The 6800 GT is a higher factory-clocked speed than the GS. The GT means it's got more speed and can do more steps in a given time. The XE usually means extreme, or "heavily overclocked" and usually runs higher risk of overheating or cooking the GPU if it's not careful.

Krusty · « **Reply #24 on:** February 21, 2008, 04:14:26 PM »

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Originally posted by VERTEX
I understand the 7600GS and 7300 GT are close

Nope!!!

7300 is bargain basement, trust me on this. It didn't even exist when the 76oo line was introduced. It came out later because they needed a card for computers without them. Not meant for power, just meant to show a desktop.

EDIT: P.S. We may have more to choose from, but we're also paying way more for them. It bites lately, as prices have been higher for items *and* for shipping (fuel prices are sky-high, so shipping something costs more)

VERTEX · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2008, 04:38:15 PM »

I did download the hi res pack.

So the 6800 is more powerful that the 7300, and the 7600 is more powerful than both?

Between the 6800 XE, 7300GT, 7600GS is the 7600GS the most powerful??

Krusty · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2008, 04:46:24 PM »

If you had said "7600GT" I might have said yes... 6800GT vs 7600GS is going to be a tough call. The processor itself is better, and it thinks in a better way, but the overall speed may be slower by a hair.

I say go for the 7600GS, if given that choice.

VERTEX · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2008, 05:06:48 PM »

Thanks Krusty.

Krusty · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2008, 07:08:17 PM »

Vertex: I checked up on a link I have bookmarked here at home.

At best, the 7300GT AGP is better than the FX 5700LE AGP, but only by about twice as much.

The 7600GS AGP is better than the 6800 XT AGP, and I don't know how XT and XE compare with each other, but they've got to be similar.

7600 is faster and processes more, so overall better.

Just a follow-up.

RedGiant · « **Reply #29 on:** February 22, 2008, 12:24:02 AM »

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Originally posted by OOZ662
All of the 6800s (as far as I know) are manually unlockable using a program called RivaTuner. nVidia made all the different versions of the card by locking or unlocking pixel pipelines/shaders to slow the card down. All of them have the same hardware, so there's really no downside to unlocking them.

I've used a standard XFX 6800 unlocked to whatever the best 6800's specs are for the past three or four years. With a decent system under it, it can easily run this game full slider settings and hi-res.

That is absolutely incorrect. The ONLY unlockable 6800 series card is the 6800GS AGP version. And even then, not all will be fully unlocked. For some, both pixel pipelines and vertex shaders may work, on others only one or the other will work. On some, none will work.
The 6800GS AGP versions use the NV40 architecture, which is the same used in the 6800GT, but there was defect with some of the NV40 chips they made. So, they put them in the 6800GS AGP. However, a majority of the chips were still good which means you can unlock some extra pixel pipelines and vertex shaders to make it perform the same as a 6800GT. And, to go further, you can even change the bios of the 6800GS to turn it into a 6800 UltraExtreme, which is pretty close to a 7800GS. Regardless of what anyone tells you, opening up the extra pixelpipelines and vertexshaders WILL NOT damage the card. If it doesn't work, you can set it back to factory spec. However, upgraded the bios to run it as an ultra extreme can ruin the card, since the bios mod will make the card run faster, which produces more heat. If one did the bios mod, I would recommend installing a better fan and larger heatsink.

In my experience ALL of the BGF brand versions of these cards were unlockable.
A nice performance boost for nothing. And it's completely safe for the card, unlike overclocking.