Author Topic: This is must see... (Read 1946 times)

crockett · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2008, 05:23:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Tarmac
What Karnak said. 2x radiators on the spit means that video was not shot in 1941.

Possible.. it could be a reproduction.. I'm going by what the site said. The video is from a site that deals in ww2 films, so I'll take their word on it.. untill someone can "prove" otherwise. Just because it says 41 doesn't mean it happened in 41 could have happened at a later date.

I just don't buy that it's CGI.. I used to be pretty big in CGI and no way would that kind of quality be done and no one hear about it.

The only way I could even possibly buy that it's CGI is if they used film from a real aircraft (the one acting as the chase plane) then added in the other aircraft he was following.

Otherwise the background terrain is just too good to be faked. The other issie is the smoke is just far too realistic compaired to any CGI smoke I've seen.

speaking of CGI.. check out this 262 I found on blender's forums..

http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=110320

Donzo · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2008, 05:25:59 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
History channel CGI does not look like that.. nor does any other I've ever seen and I used to do 3D work. I call BS on this being CGI.. Also History channel shows various views of their reproductions not gun cam only footage.

If that is CGI then it made some news somewhere so if you guys call CGI.. well prove it. That quality of CGI environment would have made some news somewhere.

It says digitally remastered to color. Not CGI. As to the radio I have no clue on that part could very well be fake and added to the video as well as the sound.

So who was doing the filming? Just another 109 with no guns and just a camera along for the ride?

crockett · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2008, 05:28:44 PM »

something else I notice after watching it again.. at the start 2 spits split the 109's one goes to the right one to the left. I knew the 2nd spit came in at the end but I never noticed it flew past them to the right side at the start. I was thinking he came in from above or afterwards. Never realized it was there from the start.

Yknurd · « **Reply #18 on:** February 17, 2008, 05:36:03 PM »

Photoshop.

Yknurd · « **Reply #19 on:** February 17, 2008, 05:45:05 PM »

Although this is pretty damn cool.

crockett · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2008, 05:54:17 PM »

well the only other "film" I could find as someone mention it maybe from a program from BBC..

Well this clip is from the TV series "A Piece of Cake" which is still not the same kind of footage.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vT1L3l5dvhA

So if it's not real footage than someone can show me where it came from, because it don't match anything I can find of known shows or movies.

crockett · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2008, 06:00:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Yknurd
Photoshop.

You even know what photoshop is?

Larry · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2008, 06:01:34 PM »

Looks like CGI. Who is the guy that made alot of battle scenes in CGI. I think hes japanese. Kinda looks like his work.

Gianlupo · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2008, 06:16:29 PM »

You mean Tochy, TK? I don't think it's something he did, he usually put them in his site and there's nothing like that (site's at http://www.k4.dion.ne.jp/~suppon/)

And, Crockett, it's clearly a fake. Do you really think a Spit pilot would drop in the middle of 2 109, giving a perfect target to the wingman? And, if the second spit was there from the beginning, why didn't he helped his friend? I can't believe there were so clueless pilots in the war....

Donzo · « **Reply #24 on:** February 17, 2008, 06:24:14 PM »

I think it is actual footage of some planes out of the Imperial War Museum Duxford.

The footage was shot for use in a motion simulator.

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Visitors to Duxford's Imperial War Museum will get a taste of what it was like to take part in a dogfight over the skies of 1940's England this Easter. Filmed in real time by Duxford-based Spitfires and a Messerschmitt Bf109, the motion simulator moves from the perspective of the Bf109 as it makes a lightning raid on our shores during the Battle of Britain.

Larry · « **Reply #25 on:** February 17, 2008, 06:50:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Gianlupo
You mean Tochy, TK? I don't think it's something he did, he usually put them in his site and there's nothing like that (site's at http://www.k4.dion.ne.jp/~suppon/)

Yea thats him. Those are some great movies.

moot · « **Reply #26 on:** February 17, 2008, 07:06:00 PM »

Too fluid for a WWII guncam. Did they even have aperture systems of that quality back then? All airborne footage I've seen from WWII was fixed exposure.

Donzo · « **Reply #27 on:** February 17, 2008, 07:17:03 PM »

Check out the "Dogfight" film from this company:

http://helifilms.homestead.com/ridefilms.html

You can't view the film on the site but I bet that's the video we are looking at.

Karnak · « **Reply #28 on:** February 17, 2008, 07:19:48 PM »

The Spitfires had two radiatiors (means two stage Merlin or Griffon engine, Mk IX or later) and no cannons (means unarmed PR aircraft or CGI with a madeup Spitfire version having two radiators and eight .303s).

jarbo · « **Reply #29 on:** February 17, 2008, 09:25:21 PM »

well i check a few of the other links out and enjoyed this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR_9s-aFnIs