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Offline Charge

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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2008, 04:30:28 AM »
"Hit the prop reduction gear housing or prop dome and you could have an oil leak over the wind screen."

IIRC P39s sometimes suffered from oil leaking from the gearbox and smearing the windshield.

"Bodhi, im not sure if it used oil up in the transfer case, or just heavy duty grease."

I don't think that is possible in that kind of application. It needs transmission oil as any heavy duty transmission gearbox.

It would be interesting to know if the gearbox was in oil circulation with the engine. That would mean tubes running to and from engine to gearbox.

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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2008, 07:54:30 AM »
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Well, since the P-39 was supposed to protect the pilot, i bet you cant see ANYTHING behind you.


Actually, it was the design of the P-39 cockpit that lead to the development of the full fledged bubble canopy in other fighters.  

Pilots of the P39 disagreed on many accounts (the more experienced being more positive, the less experienced more severe) about the flying characteristics (such as the tumble that the test pilots couldn't replicate), but they all agreed on one major point- it had "Fantastic visibility".
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2008, 08:03:01 AM »
It'll be interesting to see the PW model on the P39. If the pilot gets hit as easily on the 38s (because theres no engine up front), then we know, that the 38 model is correct. If not, then I guess its the prop that saves him.:eek: :lol
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2008, 08:23:45 AM »
Looked around.



Ignorance is bliss, now im not so bliss full anymore.
Kinda a laugh how the first thing noted, is the gear box oil tank. :cry



This logic if implemented is sure to make people say WTF!? for years to come when the nose gets hit, they get blinded by oil, the engine keeps runing on flawless untill the transfer case lock's up, spining the aircraft to the ground.

Other pictures and info found here.

http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/P-39.html

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http://www.airpages.ru/cgi-bin/epg.pl?nav=us10&page=p39_01

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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2008, 08:46:38 AM »
"when the nose gets hit, they get blinded by oil"

I have a feeling that it's not going to be modelled but only the rear engine oil tank effects.

Good find BTW. :aok

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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2008, 09:45:58 AM »
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Since the engine is mounted behind the pilot who would a old leak affect the cockpit? would you be able to see oil on the back of the windscreen? Also would the shaft running from the engine to the prop be sustainable to damage?


This question, about oil, was already answered in one of the original P-39 threads.

The answer was "NO"


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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2008, 10:43:41 AM »
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Bodhi, im not sure if it used oil up in the transfer case, or just heavy duty grease.


The prop pitch on the P-39 is controlled by oil pressure.  As far as I can recall, the oil pressure for the prop pitch on the P-39 was provided by the engine like a P-51, B-25, F6F, or F4u.  Lose oil pressure, and you lose the propellor pitch (RPM) control.
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2008, 11:09:45 AM »
Look at the thick frames around the car doors, the top-side frames, and then look at the very narrow rear view almost entirely blocked by the air intake scoop.


Ain't nobody seeing nothin' out the back o' that thing!

I think visibility will be the worst of any plane we've had since the 190s were redone, but that's just a guess based on the thickness and placement of the framing.
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2008, 11:42:29 AM »
Why would the P-39 get a new and complex damage model when no other model does? I'm not thinking this is likely.
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2008, 11:56:56 AM »
And given its a mid engined plane a P39 should it react differently when shot down.
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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2008, 12:01:31 PM »
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Look at the thick frames around the car doors, the top-side frames, and then look at the very narrow rear view almost entirely blocked by the air intake scoop.


Ain't nobody seeing nothin' out the back o' that thing!

I think visibility will be the worst of any plane we've had since the 190s were redone, but that's just a guess based on the thickness and placement of the framing.

I think you're in for a surprise.
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2008, 02:51:35 PM »
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Well, since the P-39 was supposed to protect the pilot, i bet you cant see ANYTHING behind you.


The P39Q was overhauled by the russians to make it better. They took most of the armament out.
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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2008, 02:56:51 PM »
With regard to vulnerability of the engine to enemy fire from behind, I would guess that the P-39 would be similar to the P-38, since both have engines that are not in front of pilot-protecting armor plate.
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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2008, 03:19:49 PM »
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The P39Q was overhauled by the russians to make it better. They took most of the armament out.



Are we getting the Q? I thought we were getting the N?
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« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2008, 03:39:12 PM »
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Are we getting the Q? I thought we were getting the N?



January 25, 2008
Aces High II: P-39Q Development Screenshots

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