Small Solution To stop Stuka bombers

[Charge]

"Its funny that you include the Ju88 in that list, as the very reason it only had two engines and was equipped with dive flaps is so that it COULD dive bomb."

In fact "Stuka" means "Sturzkampfflugzeuguzeug" meaning in practice both Ju87 and Ju88.

Both were equipped with Stuvi divebombing sight and Ju88 was built to endure the tremendous loads of divebombing.

http://www.airwarfare.com/guides/stuvi_guide.htm



Sry, not a highjack, just a bit of info...

-C+

[thndregg]

Wouldn't bother me a bit. I'm one of the few that has the patience to fly the distance level-bomb with level bombers. If I dive bomb in anything, it's the Jug.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by Stoney
Dropping the HQ radar...
Dropping the fighter hangars...
Dropping the VH's in tank town...
Suicide pork missions for ord/radar...
Camping aircraft spawns in GV's...
Camping in general...

This list could continue.  All I'll say is welcome to the MA, where someone elses imagination is your worst nightmare...

                      Very true. However I would call "Lancstukaing" a separate issue in its own right. At least tanks "did" kill other tanks and "did" kill aircraft on the ground with their main guns. And every suicide pork mission Ive been on my intent has been to get away, and, ords/dar "were"/"are" high value targets in actual combat. All the rest of the targets you mention are hard targets and fair game. Tho camping is dweebish.

                     But a Lancaster dive bombing on GVs? You can at least easily live with P-47s and Ponys breaking up your GV mission because they actually did so in real life. I hope AH fixes the angles thing so this kind of play will end. Ive been on a few GV missions busted up by Lancstukas and its pretty sad.

[Furball]

Originally posted by MjTalon
Ever get tired when your on a 10+ kill streak in your gv? And along comes a pissed gvers than you've killed countless times in a lanc stuka and puts a end too your killing rampage.

Or, you could stop spawn camping and up an Ostwind.

[stephen]

Limiting where bombers take off is not cool, after we take a couple nme bases our bombers are gonna have to fly an hour to get anywhere....

plus simply limiting the angle of attack which bombs could be dropped seems a much simpler fix, though I warn you your gonna be just as mad when ju88's start dive bombing you, because unlike Lancs, they are made for the tactic.

[waystin2]

Originally posted by Furball
Or, you could stop spawn camping and up an Ostwind.

It's what I would do!

[MjTalon]

Originally posted by Furball
Or, you could stop spawn camping and up an Ostwind.

Actually before you seem that i spawn camp, i actually kill more gvs with my IL2 than killing them on the ground, i just used a example sentence as a reference.

[ridley1]

The Wirblewind may help combat lancstuka effects.

Let's wait and see.

[Bronk]

Once again, limiting at what dive angle heavies can release is the fix.

[Hawker25]

i really hope this problem gets addressed.  It has gotten to the point were cv's are almost useless.  All it takes is 1 or 2 people to dive bomb in a heavy and the cv is dead.  I hope this will get addressed as HT has spent some time to make the nice new cvs for us.

[skyctpn]

This is actually a great idea.. and while we are at it.. lets limit the fighter types that can be launched from different bases.. No p38's from small bases.. only one La-7 base per side.  Spitfires can only be launched from bases that are loosing the war due to sissyness ect..

[Bruv119]

How about having a friendly or squaddie on station to kill 3 suicidal lancs drivers repeatedly.

If your really that scared of them pork the ord.

[skyctpn]

This topic comes up once a month..
The title should actually be "whaaaa!!! im a gv'er and I dont want to be bothered moving my vehicle in order to prevent a 2 day player from omfgwtfpwning!!!111 me."

The best ones are the ones that include the heading "ive been here for 4 years."
Yet they still havent figured this all out.

[waystin2]

All jokes/whines/comments comments aside, I highly recommend that tankers take the time to pair up with an Ostwind as it is a highly beneficial relationship.  Tanks protect the Ostie and get their GV kills, Ostie protects the tank and gets AC kills.  

[MajIssue]

Originally posted by MjTalon
Ever get tired when your on a 10+ kill streak in your gv? And along comes a pissed gvers than you've killed countless times in a lanc stuka and puts a end too your killing rampage.


Well me and whels were talking on 200 today, and a possible way to fix the lanc stukas/b17s/24s etc is to restrict there launch to medium/large airbases. Yes it might sound silly but look at the positive effects:


-Will force bombers to roll from back bases in the map

-Will dramatically reduce the amount of dive bombing Bombers.

- Actually won't have suicidal Bombers rolling from small bases to pork and bail.

I favor making bombers be in level flight to pickle eggs or restricting bomb release to the bombadier's position.  Or changing the FM stresses on wings... i.e a high G pullout will rip a lancs wings (or wingtips) off.

I disagree with the LG/MED base premise because it would dramatically reduce the number of buffs in the sky on many maps. Forcing all buffs to take "the long way" to their target would needlessly make ALL bomber flights longer (that alone will discourage many players from upping a bomber) and make it harder to blunt a hoard by dropping their hangers at an adjacent base. As for suicidal porking... If a player wants to halve their perkies by bailing after a drop, that's on him or her. Chances are if a buff flies at low altitude near a hostile base, that buff will die in short order anyway.

I fly buffs and I like to hunt buffs... I never use a heavy bomber to purposely kill GVs.

My 2 cents

AATaLeN