Author Topic: Land of the free..... (Read 2189 times)

Xargos · « **Reply #30 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:25:27 AM »

American children are taught that they're not responsible for their own actions, it's no wonder they end up in prison. Most inmates I talk to feels the world owes them something, like a free ride.

Chairboy · « **Reply #31 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:34:37 AM »

Hell may be freezing over, I agree with John9001 regarding the 'make everything illegal and everyone is a criminal' sentiment and Xargos in the post above.

I picked the wrong day to stop drinking....

Jackal1 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:41:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Hell may be freezing over, I agree with John9001 regarding the 'make everything illegal and everyone is a criminal' sentiment and Xargos in the post above.

I picked the wrong day to stop drinking....

I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

john9001 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:47:03 AM »

Rolex, where do you live?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:50:27 AM »

Rice burner heaven John.

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 29, 2008, 09:21:25 AM »

so the only real freedom we have over other countries is that we can own any handgun and carry it with us to defend ourselves if we wish (in most states)?

good start. Big deal to me... then there is the taxes thing but...

lazs

ROX · « **Reply #36 on:** February 29, 2008, 10:11:42 AM »

There's quite a few people in prison for gang offenses, drugs, guns, murder...

Those felons are in prison for a good reason. We don't want them on the street.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Nefarious · « **Reply #37 on:** February 29, 2008, 10:20:09 AM »

What happens when it all collapses? Where do all the Millions of Prisoners go?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 29, 2008, 10:27:53 AM »

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What happens when it all collapses? Where do all the Millions of Prisoners go?

McDonald`s.

Nilsen · « **Reply #39 on:** February 29, 2008, 10:37:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
McDonald`s.

mg1942 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 29, 2008, 11:05:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
Oh really? Tell us what special freedoms you have there that I don't have.

Let's start with some simple freedoms.

I can take adult beverages of my choice to any public park (along with a blanket, a BBQ, some music and friends) and have a great time. My friends can get so drunk they can't even stand up. We are assembling in a peaceful manner and we will not be bothered by the police, except to maybe make sure my drunk friends can get home safely. You'll be arrested for being drunk in public, having an open bottle of alcohol, disorderly conduct and probably be tased.

I am free to set up a band on a street corner and give concert. You will be arrested.

I can assemble peacefully with other people for a demonstration and wave a sign, if I wish. I can give a speech on a busy street corner with a bullhorn. I don't need a permit and the police will not bother me or try to stop me. I am free to do that. You will be stopped and arrested if you do not stop. You'll be lucky to not be tased.

I am free to walk or drive anywhere I please without the fear of being mugged or robbed. I could walk around with thousands of dollars worth of money hanging out of every pocket and be free of fear. You can't do that.

I can start a business tomorrow with the freedom of not having to get business licenses from the city, the state, the federal government, or even a tax number. You couldn't do that. You don't have that freedom.

I am free to open a liquor store and sell it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You can't do that.

I am free to open a bar that operates all night, if I choose. I don't have to have a non-smoking section. I can choose to make it all smoking or all non-smoking or any damn way I choose. You can't do that.

I am free to open a business anywhere I want. You can't do that.

I am free to build a house of any design I want, any where that I want. You can't do that.

I am free to marry anyone I want without having to buy a license from the government to do it. We are free to divorce without the government blessing our decision. You can't do that.

I am free of politicians most of the time. When it's time for an election, politicians can campaign for only about 10 days before the election. You are relentlessly harassed and stalked by them and the media day after day for almost 2 years. Ahar...

Japan?

MORAY37 · « **Reply #41 on:** February 29, 2008, 11:10:28 AM »

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Actually European countries arent even close to our freedoms and the Police are restricted far less in Euro-countries. In some Euro-countries you are required by Law to carry ID and can be arrested if you dont.

Wow. And how many countries have you been in? Which ones in Europe do this? I Sure am glad it wasn't like that 5 years ago when I travelled through 9 of those countries for 5 months.... things must've gotten really bad really fast over there in the old world.

Either that or you have no idea what you are talking about.

I, personally, found Europe to be on par with our freedoms in the states. Beyond that, I found most of the people I ran into friendly and patient. Amazing, really, when asking for directions in languages I could barely begin to speak and they didn't get pissy. Respect and curiosity were the rule. Bad words and bad pictures (read cursing and porn) on regular television. Drinking in the streets. Pretty much don't act like an idiot and you're not treated like one. People weren't nearly as stuck up there..... ESPECIALLY the women. If you're single, "hit" Europe...especially Sweden, Holland, Denmark...Germany (though stay away from the big tourist centers in Germany, people are a bit more crazy there)

I suggest you leave the country and find things out for yourself, instead of listening to others tell you that America is the only truly free country in the world. As far as ID...that gem is coming here.. it isn't there.

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People born on or after December 1, 1964, will have to obtain a REAL ID by December 1, 2014. Those born before December 1, 1964, will have until December 1, 2017 to obtain their REAL ID.

Nefarious · « **Reply #42 on:** February 29, 2008, 11:31:11 AM »

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McDonald`s.

Nearly spewed Coke (from Mcdonalds) all over my work monitor.

straffo · « **Reply #43 on:** February 29, 2008, 12:43:45 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
so the only real freedom we have over other countries is that we can own any handgun and carry it with us to defend ourselves if we wish (in most states)?

good start. Big deal to me... then there is the taxes thing but...

lazs

We even have this one

(with some restriction I must say)

Xargos · « **Reply #44 on:** February 29, 2008, 02:18:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Hell may be freezing over, I agree with John9001 regarding the 'make everything illegal and everyone is a criminal' sentiment and Xargos in the post above.

I picked the wrong day to stop drinking....

Really though, I can't figure out why an inmate who is in for only three months is put in the same cell as a lifer.