Author Topic: The Urine Test (Read 1416 times)

texasmom · « **Reply #45 on:** February 29, 2008, 04:13:35 PM »

Yeah, I've kinda noticed that I apply my mother/children attitude toward more than mother/children. Good thing I ain't running for Ms. Congeniality.

ridley1 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 29, 2008, 04:36:26 PM »

I agree with you eskimo....WHILE ON THE JOB .But If I smoke a joint with my friend the police commissioner, LAST WEEK, the time for clearance of the metablites is so long for THC, that I could get boned for something I did 7 days ago.

I AM subject to random drug tests. I drive transport cross border. I am a Canadian. Canadian law doesn't require me to pee. But to operate in the states, I have to pee. A U.S. regulation that crosses it's border and contravenes my countries supreme court decisions concerning the right to personal freedoms and freedom from unjustified persecution.

Texasmom. You are required to go to the local authorities, with your children, tomorrow, or face jail time. People abuse children. Therefore, we (the government) want to make sure you're not abusing yours.

The same damn thing.

john9001 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 29, 2008, 04:46:19 PM »

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Originally posted by texasmom
Past use (like an over-the-weekend joint) also is a great indicator of the level of respect for the law/authority that someone has. If they're willing to disregard the law in respect to the use of drugs, you can be darn sure they're willing to disregard your work policies as well.

That's the whole *nothing is more important than me* attitude which has enveloped us lately.

"I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law."
Martin Luther King Jr.

sluggish · « **Reply #48 on:** February 29, 2008, 07:50:02 PM »

I'll accept your silence as an admission of being wrong.

texasmom · « **Reply #49 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:12:40 PM »

*yawn*

waaaahhh~ I want my pot!

SD67 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:13:33 PM »

Rich46yo · « **Reply #51 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:38:08 PM »

They ought to just legalize Pot and decriminalize everything else. Ive worked a city with free fire zones due to this war on drugs and the profits gangs can make on it. And for what? So a bunch of lawyers can make money in criminal cases?

The war on drugs was never worth 1 dead kid, 1 dead citizen, or 1 dead Policeman. And here it is 2008 after thousands have died and been crippled, after countless Billions have been spent.

Marijuana is far, far less destructive then alchohol. I dont use neither but this point is so obvious anyone who doesnt see it must be blind.

SD67 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:47:51 PM »

If "illegal" drugs were regulated they could be taxed and monitored.
The immense profits seen to the underworld would dry up, there would be no more drug labs in domestic environments, the power base of the majority of organised crime would disappear. There would be a huge reduction in street crime and job security and safety for law enforcement officers would improve remarkably. The government would save billions of dollars wasted on a losing battle and they would actually make more revenue from the taxes imposed on a regulated system.
The health and quality of life of addicts would be improved by regulation of a better standard of product, and help programs would be legitimised and the stigma attached to be a recovering addict would be largely reduced. The attraction to younger generations would also be much less since there is less perceived risk attached to drug use.
Yeah, the war against drugs is working just fine.

Speed55 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 29, 2008, 08:49:01 PM »

I'd have to agree with p-tests for people that have jobs where there mistakes can cause themselves, or others around them injury.

Pilots, bus drivers, machine operators, cops, firemen, ect.

If i were the employer, why should i chance that the guy smoked up 4 days ago, or 4 hours ago. Besides pot, the drug tests are looking for other things as well.
So what if you've got a school bus driver that is still blasted out of his mind from shooting up coke all weekend. He goes to work on monday and has a seizure while behind the wheel and wrecks, killing a bunch of kids?

I definitely am for any welfare, public housing, or unemployment recipients having to get p tested.

VonMessa · « **Reply #54 on:** March 01, 2008, 01:01:31 AM »

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Originally posted by texasmom
*yawn*

waaaahhh~ I want my pot!

Truly, I find myself disappointed by your lack of creativity. Repeating the same thing over and over does not make a valid argument. However, an educated, well thought out rebuttal with answers that have merit will still be well received from where I am sitting.

And just a little caveat for those too far away to have actually laid hands on the liberty bell, actually felt the crack in it from when it was rang, stared at it long enough, almost hearing it ring today, and contemplating the connotations of what the ringing of this bell meant :

Stand on your soapboxes and slam your shoe on the podium all you wish, until you are blue. In fact stand firmly behind the "letter of the law". Preach away. The cold, hard and undeniable truth is as follows: 232 years ago, just a few short miles from where I sit right now, in the cradle of liberty, Philadelphia, on the 4th day of the 7th month 1776 AD....... We collectively raised our middle fingers to the "Law"

If that event never happened, tell me if you would be flying that Lone Star of yours under the Union Jack or Old Glory?

Rino · « **Reply #55 on:** March 01, 2008, 01:46:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Tac
I've had several jobs that required a urine test before getting hired.

Mortage, customer service, pc technician... different fields.

I agree, those who collect welfare checks should undergo a urine test every other check that gets sent to them.

If my taxes go to welfare checks then I would like them to go towards those who use that money to get a job or better themselves not spend it on drugs.

While it will not clean out all the welfare parasites, it will flush out a good amount.

My job used to require random urine tests for drugs, haven't seen one in
a very long time. I guess some genius upstairs finally figured out they didn't
pay us enough to buy drugs to begin with.

I do wonder what would have happened last year when I was on disability
for 6 months if I had had to take drug tests...I have no idea what they were
putting in my system with those IVs.

texasmom · « **Reply #56 on:** March 01, 2008, 02:00:20 AM »

If you want some productive effort to change a law which you feel is completely useless ~ go for it. When enough people feel the same way, they'll elect officials who will help enact it. Will potheads ever rise to the level of raising arms to allow their recreational activities become law? Doubt they'd make it off the couch.

Until then, it's correct to obey the law, or work to get it changed...

VonMessa · « **Reply #57 on:** March 01, 2008, 02:03:26 AM »

You still awake? Good, because I'm still waiting...... (and humming the jeopardy theme)

Handled in the true style of your ex governor: 1 hand on bible, 1 foot on soapbox, and head planted firmly up rectum.

texasmom · « **Reply #58 on:** March 01, 2008, 02:05:55 AM »

What are you waiting for? I'm not gonna debate the thing with you. I'm not going to change your mind, and you're not going to change mine.

It's either put up or shut up on the thing. If you don't like the law because it interferes with your lifestyle, work to get it changed. Until then, you have an obligation (just like everyone else) to adhere to it.

AWMac · « **Reply #59 on:** March 01, 2008, 02:08:53 AM »

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Originally posted by VonMessa
Truly, I find myself disappointed by your lack of creativity. Repeating the same thing over and over does not make a valid argument. However, an educated, well thought out rebuttal with answers that have merit will still be well received from where I am sitting.

And just a little caveat for those too far away to have actually laid hands on the liberty bell, actually felt the crack in it from when it was rang, stared at it long enough, almost hearing it ring today, and contemplating the connotations of what the ringing of this bell meant :

Stand on your soapboxes and slam your shoe on the podium all you wish, until you are blue. In fact stand firmly behind the "letter of the law". Preach away. The cold, hard and undeniable truth is as follows: 232 years ago, just a few short miles from where I sit right now, in the cradle of liberty, Philadelphia, on the 4th day of the 7th month 1776 AD....... We collectively raised our middle fingers to the "Law"

If that event never happened, tell me if you would be flying that Lone Star of yours under the Union Jack or Old Glory?

Pffft a crackhead freezes to death on the steps of the Nations Capitol does that make him patriotic? A heroin addict dies in the shadows of the Washington Monument is he/she a Patriot?

Sit a lil closer to your cracked bell Von Messa I'm sure you feel as patriotic as any eskimo or hawaiian would. BTW while yer sitting there get up off your bellybutton and serve your Country... wait that would take you away from the Bell and that would be unpatriotic in your eyes.

So just sit there.

Mac