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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2008, 04:24:24 PM »
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And I do have Airbus time.  Don't know about you.  I have to wonder how it would have come out if he had left it setup for autoland.  The Airbus autoland is pretty amazing.


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Maybe on your PC mate, but not in real life. Sorry pilots are still needed.


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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2008, 04:28:40 PM »
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Maybe on your PC mate, but not in real life. Sorry pilots are still needed.
 


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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2008, 04:33:46 PM »
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Let me know when that thing has a ATPL rating and starts flying passengers wise prettythang also do the thread a favour and learn to resize pics.


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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2008, 04:38:54 PM »
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Let me know when that thing has a ATPL rating and starts flying passengers wise prettythang also do the thread a favour and learn to resize pics.


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Just a matter of time...

And as far as resizing pics, I'm just too lazy.
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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2008, 04:44:04 PM »
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Just a matter of time...


Yes along with space travel and hotels on mars. Sorry going from a big RC plane flying over battlefields to a full size 747 carrying 300 + pax is two different things.

And here's a little app to help with your time http://www.irfanview.net/ takes less then 2 minutes.


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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2008, 05:05:17 PM »
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Sorry going from a big RC plane flying over battlefields to a full size 747 carrying 300 + pax is two different things.


Global hawk is not RC... it's fully autonomous.  Only during taxiing is human input required.

Autoland features have been around awhile:
Boeing tested one based on GPS in 1995.  There is a VTOL landing system for the JSF.  ALS based on ILS have been around since the 1970's.
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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2008, 08:40:51 PM »
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Global hawk is not RC... it's fully autonomous.  Only during taxiing is human input required.

Autoland features have been around awhile:
Boeing tested one based on GPS in 1995.  There is a VTOL landing system for the JSF.  ALS based on ILS have been around since the 1970's.


Thanks for the lesson on landing systems, guess all my years flying real world and over Vatsim I've actually learnt something today from a game BBS imagine that.

Autoland within set minimums is one thing, autolanding in a crosswind is another. And again having pax on board is out of the question whether it's RC,auto or what ever.

They don't even trust automated commuter trains, and that POS is stuck on rails..


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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2008, 09:56:06 PM »
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Global hawk is not RC... it's fully autonomous.  Only during taxiing is human input required.

Autoland features have been around awhile:
Boeing tested one based on GPS in 1995.  There is a VTOL landing system for the JSF.  ALS based on ILS have been around since the 1970's.


The Marine Corps AN/TPN-22 Precision Approach Radar was capable of landing F18s in the 80s

Somone told me once that F111s came back all the time with dead pilots in 'nam.  I don't know how true that is.  but your right the Global hawk doesn't really have a pilot, he's more like a controler.

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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2008, 10:11:03 PM »
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Maybe on your PC mate, but not in real life. Sorry pilots are still needed.


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Didn't say I flew an Airbus for a living, but I have flown one.

Since you don't know me, or what I do, or who I do it for, you can't make such a statement.  

I am a pilot, and have been for 27 years.

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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2008, 10:19:34 PM »
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Didn't say I flew an Airbus for a living, but I have flown one.

Since you don't know me, or what I do, or who I do it for, you can't make such a statement.  

I am a pilot, and have been for 27 years.


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« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2008, 10:19:36 PM »
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Didn't say I flew an Airbus for a living, but I have flown one.

Since you don't know me, or what I do, or who I do it for, you can't make such a statement.  

I am a pilot, and have been for 27 years.


Then you'd understand the limitations of autopilots,landing systems and regulations.

And as for the don't know me,what I do etc...  :noid

Lighten up, no i don't and your statement didn't come across as being from someone who has been flying for 27 years. So how am I to know exactly?


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« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2008, 07:24:17 AM »

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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2008, 07:26:03 AM »
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« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2008, 07:39:46 AM »
Well crap!

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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2008, 08:26:38 AM »
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Global hawk is not RC... it's fully autonomous.  Only during taxiing is human input required.

Autoland features have been around awhile:
Boeing tested one based on GPS in 1995.  There is a VTOL landing system for the JSF.  ALS based on ILS have been around since the 1970's.


A passenger plane could pretty well operate on it's own once a path has been configured. Only thing that there isn't on the planes is automatic takeoff. Otherwise those systems could be joined together and the plane could fly automatically. Basically it's nothing more than click of a button to enter the next phase of a flight. With new datalink based ATC systems it could be made to be controlled by ATC, if the input would be directed to a control unit instead of a display unit.

However, the real problem is not to get a big plane to fly automatically under optimal conditions, but make it survive in extreme and abnormal situations. When an UAV gets hit it is likely to go down - not something you'd like to see with hundreds of pax with a still manageable damage. The highly trained pilots are there to manage these extreme and abnormal situations, albeit most often it is the human error that brings a plane down.