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« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2008, 12:35:53 PM »
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« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2008, 02:21:30 PM »
I'm not a RL pilot, but I think the video shows gross pilot error. Good that he recovered, even a great recovery. But in the end he was pushing a bad situation and almost lost it. Glad I wasn't on board. Nothing wrong with going round a couple times to get the feel of the situation. Landing fixation......
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« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2008, 03:03:47 PM »
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I'm not a RL pilot, but I think the video shows gross pilot error. Good that he recovered, even a great recovery. But in the end he was pushing a bad situation and almost lost it. Glad I wasn't on board. Nothing wrong with going round a couple times to get the feel of the situation. Landing fixation......
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Since you are not a pilot, you don't operate under the same microscope of scrutiny - and frankly your opinion is reckless and uninformed. Those of us who have been drivers for years know that sometimes you get handed a bad deal - there is nothing you can do about it.

We lost 2 pilots in the past week to bad deals. 1 in Riverside CA where his engine failed in a densely populated area at 500 feet - everyone in the plane died - but the guy maneuvered it away from populated areas and saved a lot of people on the ground. Another down in Rio - Brazil when they put JET-A in the tank when AVGAS was called because the line guy got confused by the label "Turbo" on the side of the engine cowling. That guy had 30 years behind the stick, his engine failed at 500 feet when the AVGAS cleared the lines, JET-A finally made it to the spider valve, and his engine detonated and failed.

I almost got my friends T-28B refueled with Jet-A once. The jet truck pulled up; I asked "what's this for"? She said the manager told her during training that all large airplanes took Jet-A. Just proves line person training is all over the place.

"You get what you INspect, not what you EXpect."

As for the Airbus pilot - he did it right. You can't see gusts, but he didn't lose it, went around and got down.


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« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2008, 03:04:38 PM »
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I'm not a RL pilot, but I think the video shows gross pilot error.
What error? Short wind gusts aren't predictable. According to the crew and Lufthansa, they were indeed hit by gust and didn't crash because they were practicing very same situation in simulator few hundred times.

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« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2008, 04:23:11 PM »
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Those kinds of winds don't look like nice weather.
25 gusting to 45
35 gusting to 55


The TCU and CB are the really scary parts of that.  With those, everything else is pretty much out the window. Pucker factor on that landing had to be at least 11.
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Forgot who compared this landing to sim training, but I don't care how many times you might practice something like that in a sim, when it happens IRL it's a whole new game.

Wolf, sorry to hear about your friends.  Sucks when you can put a face with the tail number on the report. Lost some of mine a few years back as well.

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« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2008, 04:31:26 PM »
Was on a SouthWest flight to Vegas last month and we got hit with a NASTY crosswind just before touchdown.

We came down on the left wheel hard, it was a few seconds before the pilot could wrestle the aircraft level and come down on the other wheel.

Strangely, we had the same thing happen on returning to Little Rock...35 mph wind on landing.


I came very close to having a Depends moment.


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« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2008, 05:28:45 PM »
Great job by the pilots. I look at this as a learning experience, considering my goal is to join Lufthansa.
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« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2008, 06:11:11 PM »
I heard tonight the Airbus was hit with winds approach 100mph, if that is the case, the pilot did an amazing job.  I take back what I said before.

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« Reply #53 on: March 04, 2008, 02:43:51 AM »
It was a very strong gust, and a heck of a recovery job.
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