lol call it what you want. He stated how he saw it, I stated how I saw it. Like I said earlier.... those who try it will make their own determination. Hopefully they are a little more mature about it and not call everyone who disagrees with them whiners. I know many more who have not posted here that said the same about the AVA the way it is now.
So no matter what you say.. it's how you DO that folks will remember.
We were invited to the AVA. We checked it out and decided not to participate.
Good luck with your venture... hopefully they'll open another AVA that resembles the prior version. Most of the folks that frequented that arena did not like the MAs at all.