gameplay poll

[dedalos]

The only reason I ask, is that if we could throw out a pie-chart type of demographic that shows' the breakdown in the playerbase, It might be a handy tool for future developement. It might also help to heal the current rift in the community.

Why?  It is actually good for the game.  Its like asking for only 1 country so that people would stop fighting and arguing about rooks, bish, knits, and queens 

[MajIssue]

In my opinion, There is no "current" rift. The rift is mostly in the head of a few extremists on both parts of the spectrum.
First, most players are not furballers or toolshedders - most of them are both at times, always changing between playing modes at their leisure. They are just not as vocal as us BBS whiners or that extremely annoying lil Bonapartes on countrychannel.
Second, "current" implies that a massive change has happened recently. While this game might be much different from old AW days with a tight knit small community, and still some different from AHI back in 2000, I can clearly say: Not much has changed in the last 3 years; since I am playing regularly.
I think many claims of "it's getting worse every day" are just romantic idealisations, your (and my!) own memory sometimes fools you. I mean, I even read this from guys playing for only 1 year

Read some old threads. Complaints about toolshedding, Ho's, degrading skill levels are as old as this BBS ...

Spot on again Lusche...

Personally I fly Fighters, GVs Buffs, PT boats or AAA guns depending on whatever I want to do at that moment. I play this game for fun and fun is pretty much whatever strikes my fancy at that moment... All are fun when you are having success!

[waystin2]

I do not see a "Rift" so to speak, but I certainly see some differences in opinion as to what is possible or acceptable MA behavior.  I really could care less how folks play, I just adjust my tactics to the situation at hand.  It actually makes it more fun doing it that way, as you are not in a rut of doing the same old boring thing every time you log in.  I guess I am a good example of a average player in my interests, I just do whatever needs to be done.  Supply runs, up a fighter, attack sortie, GV sortie, field gun, ship gun, etc.  It keeps it fresh!

[pluck]

aye, I was discussing how the game has changed with someone not to long ago.  Though everyone has their thoughts on this, I just figured because we now have more people, we have more people at the extremes of every issue.  There are also more people in-between, which is good.  I never thought that issues ever reached the "rift" point.  We've been fighting on these boards for a long time.  Polls are tough, it brings to mind something HT once said, something like "we try to give players what they want, but not what they ask for."  This is not word for word, and I would be sorry if I got it wrong, but the meaning would be that players often have in mind what they want out of the game. HT wants the players to be happy, but sometimes what players ask for will not accomplish the ultimate goal or may hurt the progress.  I think most want the same things, good meaninfull fights/combat, challenges, and a place to get away and hang out with friends. 

[Guppy35]

As near as I can tell, the guys i fly with are having fun, and if we can't find any fun, we'll try and make some.  Bout all we can do under the circumstances.

And lets face it, BS'ing with the guys on Vox, and doing dumb stuff is most of the fun anyway

[Helm]

fighters didn't HO because they only had one life to give and would only throw it away in desperation.

 ...this is a total myth .....I have read in book,  after book,  after book,  of pilots refering to 'taking a head on pass'.  Allies did it....Germans did it ...everyone did it.  Only in virtual "Worlds" is it an problem.  I the "Real" world you killed anyway you could.  So please stop this stupid no head on pass stuff....it's nothing but crap...read more first hand accounts and you will see I am correct.


Helm ....out

[Overlag]

problem is the people on the extreme end of the scale that "suffer" more that the guys in the middle. These guys seem to think the other end of the scale is ruining there game, and vice verser...

if there was a scale of -10 (furballer) to + 10 (toolsheder/war player) id stick myself at a 2. I prefer simulated war/ land grab, but im perfectly fine furballing (at least trying) for hours too. and as Lusche said, people in the middle dont care or dont speak up about it, because once one battle ends, they create another one, which could turn into a furball, or could turn into a base capture...


guys at -10 or +10 are always going to be whining about something. (bodhi "fun police" thread is a classic example of a few kids throwing there toys out of the pram)

Personally id put the game at maybe -2... strat system that doesnt really "do" anything big, poor HQ target and 163s are too cheap. But at least its right in the middle roughly.


a little chart.

war winners
10, Grillman (knits Army group A leader  )
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2, Overlag
1
0
-1
-2
-3
-4
-5
-6
-7
-8
-9
-10 Bodhi, Hubs, Slapshot, Laz,
furballers

add ya names in where u think you go

[Bronk]

a little chart.

war winners
10, Grillman (knits Army group A leader  )
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2, Overlag
1
0
-1
-2
-3
-4
-5
-6
-7
-8
-9
-10 Bodhi, Hubs, Slapshot, Laz,
furballers

add ya names in where u think you go

You sir are evil. :

[Overlag]

You sir are evil. :

yeah but its true mostly? lol

[zilla]

I'm just afraid that a poll won't help much. How do you sort those that confuse degradation (sp?) of a game from those just getting tired of it (which ineveitably happens at some point to all of us).
(Also there are more than a few players who have at one point "seen the light" and consequently forgot about all their former "misdeeds" And like many proselytes, they are getting VERY zealous. Quite a few CH200 jockeys constantly unveiling lameness "LOL, buff pilot- get some ACM skills! Lame spawncamper!  What a Ho-Tard! Only lamers do GV's!" have camped the spawn side by side with me a few years ago, have killed FH's in FT, VH in TT - but now they know gamplay has recently reached a new low )

Still just an opinion, though...

Well stated. 

[Cee64E]

 ...this is a total myth .....I have read in book,  after book,  after book,  of pilots refering to 'taking a head on pass'.  Allies did it....Germans did it ...everyone did it.  Only in virtual "Worlds" is it an problem.  I the "Real" world you killed anyway you could.  So please stop this stupid no head on pass stuff....it's nothing but crap...read more first hand accounts and you will see I am correct.


Helm ....out

Just my two cents, but helm is right.  I remember reading that up until the G-H models were widely available, a head-on pass was the prefered method used by german pilots to take down B17s since they didn't have guns in the nose.

[Cee64E]

Personally I think the game is fine as it is.  It offers the flexibility of play to suit my changing mood, the comradery of squad ops, the fun and chaos of furballing, and the goal completion fun of base captures.  Leave it alone, it aint broken don't fix it.

[angelsandair]

I remember that was a hot toipc when I finally subscribed three years ago. My first map was Donut, and the was much screaming about constant bombing & capturing FT 

I miss Donut. Its always the whiners who make us lose all the fun stuff..... Man and the only prolbem i see is just stupid maps we got now. I know what to expect when i logg in. All i really look foward too when it comes to a good map is the Tank Town Map.... Plus the way to fix FT on Donut is to make them incapturable. Plus on my opinion, no1 even would try to bomb them. Only ignorant sweethearts. Sad though... Donut was a good map, thats my only true rant with the game.

[uptown]

Kids being allowed in the game is why the game goes downhill from time to time. With their clever little warps, o wait, no thats lag,their silly "how do I fly, how do I drop bombs, and dropping troops from 10k over the field, selves! Dive bombing lancs, spit and lala flying, squeaking little can't spell acm rug rats! Sell them the game on disc and get them out of here!

[sidey]

<<<<N00B and proud of it

thats why im still havin fun,,,,

my advice. hit yourself over the head really farkin hard,, forget everything you know about the game, and start again.....