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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2008, 07:15:08 PM »
No, like stall limiter, its a sign your a vet, right? ;)

In any case of you turn it off its a non-issue, tad of rudder, and your up.

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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2008, 12:35:03 PM »
Quote from: Squire on March 27, 2008, 07:15:08 PM
No, like stall limiter, its a sign your a vet, right? ;)

In any case of you turn it off its a non-issue, tad of rudder, and your up.

Regards.

It's a non-issue if it's on...well, at least to most people except for those "special" few.


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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2008, 12:41:30 PM »
Quote from: Widewing on March 27, 2008, 05:56:04 PM
Beginning with the P-39N, the Airacobra had 1,420 hp on tap.

Isn't that the unofficial, field-boosted level? Standard factory levels were around 1200+


Since when does HTC model in over-boosted engines in this game?   :furious
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2008, 03:40:41 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 28, 2008, 12:41:30 PM
Isn't that the unofficial, field-boosted level? Standard factory levels were around 1200+


Since when does HTC model in over-boosted engines in this game?   :furious

Boy would you wine about the 1590 hp at 2.5k model. ;) This would be the D-2, k and L.

Edit: AHT. pg 191, table 25, P-39N/Q..... V-1710-85  wep= 1420 at 9.7k.
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2008, 03:50:18 PM »
Well AHT has been inaccurate according to some of you folks on other issues. Also that may be field-modified (as per my post).

I did a search on 2 dozen webpages with google to refresh my memory before posting. All of them list the P-39Q as having 1200hp. I thought it was 1200-something, maybe 1300 tops, but I was kinda surprised that every resource in a random web sampling all had the same levels. Even museums and military webpages listed 1200 for the Q and N (which was what the Q was modified from)
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2008, 03:52:19 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 28, 2008, 03:50:18 PM
Well AHT has been inaccurate according to some of you folks on other issues. Also that may be field-modified (as per my post).

I did a search on 2 dozen webpages with google to refresh my memory before posting. All of them list the P-39Q as having 1200hp. I thought it was 1200-something, maybe 1300 tops, but I was kinda surprised that every resource in a random web sampling all had the same levels. Even museums and military webpages listed 1200 for the Q and N (which was what the Q was modified from)

Take off is listed as 1200, just so you know.
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2008, 03:53:49 PM »
takeoff is usually similar to emergency, as in short-duration, max power.

EDIT: None of the pages I sampled said "takeoff" though
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2008, 03:59:15 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 28, 2008, 03:53:49 PM
takeoff is usually similar to emergency, as in short-duration, max power.

EDIT: None of the pages I sampled said "takeoff" though
Did a quick google myself. None of the pages listed take off, normal, mil or wep.
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2008, 04:08:03 PM »
Krusty from zeno's.


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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #54 on: March 28, 2008, 04:21:55 PM »
Quote from: dedalos on March 24, 2008, 10:43:16 AM
Not sure which P39 you guys are using.  The ones I tried, well, I'd rather be in a P40.  A couple more weeks and we wont be seeing any P39s in the MA skies  :rofl

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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #55 on: March 28, 2008, 05:10:27 PM »
Bronk: thanks.

Now my question is: Why is a small increase in MAP with no increase in RPM making such a giant leap in horsepower? Also, is this a field-mod, as we hear many tales of the Soviets over-boosting their engines, swapping them out with little regard of maintaining them, etc?
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2008, 05:39:54 PM »
I had to look for it.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,230639.0.html

The E6B doesn't even reach these boost levels.

It also has this problem on the P-40E. We can compare the P-40E and see that its power and speed curves are inconsistent for BOTH the P-40K and the P-40E. It is a hybrid, sort of like our typhoon has been described.

This makes me think the P-39s are also not spot-on, if the E6B and the actual boost don't match up.

We have standard boost P51s, P47s, P38s, I'd like to see a standard P39, personally. That's just me.
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #57 on: March 28, 2008, 06:29:00 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 28, 2008, 05:39:54 PM
I had to look for it.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,230639.0.html

The E6B doesn't even reach these boost levels.

It also has this problem on the P-40E. We can compare the P-40E and see that its power and speed curves are inconsistent for BOTH the P-40K and the P-40E. It is a hybrid, sort of like our typhoon has been described.

This makes me think the P-39s are also not spot-on, if the E6B and the actual boost don't match up.

We have standard boost P51s, P47s, P38s, I'd like to see a standard P39, personally. That's just me.

Krusty I won't speak on the P-40, I will on the 39Q.  The max speed and and climb is about as I expected. I'm thinking the M.A.P indicator is just off. I'm willing to bet HT fixes the indicator and performance will remain the same.

I also could be wrong, time will tell.
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #58 on: March 28, 2008, 06:31:32 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 28, 2008, 05:10:27 PM
Bronk: thanks.

Now my question is: Why is a small increase in MAP with no increase in RPM making such a giant leap in horsepower? Also, is this a field-mod, as we hear many tales of the Soviets over-boosting their engines, swapping them out with little regard of maintaining them, etc?

Tell ya what jump in a stock 08 mustang. Now jump in one with a turbo producing as little as 4lbs of boost.
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Re: Impressions of the 39
« Reply #59 on: March 28, 2008, 06:34:58 PM »
Im sure the manifold guage is just off, thats all. New version, there are always a bunch of bugs, we will just have to wait for patch 3. 
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