Things need to change

[Motherland]

no offense, but i think they call that strategy. good show TK!! 

Call what strategy?
Taking our bases in northern France/Belgium/The Netherlands/ whatever that geographic region is? Sure. The allies are rolling us there and doing a good job of it. The axis, since TK left, has been very disorganised & were trying to pick up the peices. Theres no reason to whine about that, and I applaud the allies for their efforts up north.

However, camping 3 carrier groups off shore with an invincible umbrella of 5 inchers, sending in wave after wave of suicide bostons, against an enemy with almost no means of defense, is not strategy.

[1redrum]

Allied CV's respawn, since they have ports, but ours was a one shot deal.

Honestly, I have complained about anything so far... I dont like to. I have complained that we've been outnumbered for the past 3 days, often with 3 to one odds, I have complained that once we actually have gotten numbers the Axis has been able to get its poop together and take a base, but when we got to that superfleet with 2 flights of 88s and 3 109E escorts and got obliterated by 5 inch guns before we could get over the CV (despite the fact that I was able to kill a flight of suicide Bostons & land deadstick) I got pretty Pond.

and now the shoe is on the other foot , last two "War" events went the same for allies ,at least the allied team doesn't rub your face in it at every possible chance

and just like for us the last two times the more things get away from you the worse it feels hu ? Time for a gut check . Or you can run away to the mid war with the other cowards

[Motherland]

Whens the last time we had 3 cv's to your zero? We merely kicked your azz. It was our organisational prowess over ours. Im not complaining about YOUR organisational strength over OURS. Thats our bad. I've even complimented you on it, as its quite an accomplishment to come out of the ashes like the allies did. YOU, however, have an unfair advantage that cannot be overcome, in that you have 3 infinately spawning CV's and we have none.

[Odee]

Whens the last time we had 3 cv's to your two?...

The recent Japan set up as I recall.

[1redrum]

Whens the last time we had 3 cv's to your two? We merely kicked your azz. It was our organisational prowess over ours. Im not complaining about YOUR organisational strength over OURS. Thats our bad. I've even complimented you on it, as its quite an accomplishment to come out of the ashes like the allies did. YOU, however, have an unfair advantage that cannot be overcome, in that you have 3 infinately spawning CV's and we have none.

Cannot be overcome , come now with that attitude you never will ! AND see "WE kicked your AZZ" ,yep that you did, now we are returning the favor , How dose it feel? I hope you let this go while i still have respect for you ,and i feel your pain , but the way you talk you have already given up ,

 

The recent Japan set up as I recall.

 

don't forget the italy map too

[Motherland]

The recent Japan set up as I recall.

You mean, the one where we didn't have any until we started complaining about it? 

yep that you did, now we are returning the favor , How dose it feel? I hope you let this go while i still have respect for you ,and i feel your pain , but the way you talk you have already given up ,

How many times have I said now that I dont mind that your killing us in France, its the hordes of suicide CV launched bostons thats the problem? I ENJOY actually having to struggle against the enemy. I DONT enjoy fighting an invincible enemy.

I just realised I typed two, lol.... Axis doesnt have ANY CV's on this map.

[eh]

What do you know about AHII setups versus Warbirds?

Easy. Many of us have played, and do play, both.

[Arlo]

Easy. Many of us have played, and do play, both.

Many have. It was a specific question to a specific individual based on their specific requests versus their specific experiences. NOT a generality. If you have some specific suggestions then I suppose I can present this specific question to you, as well, and you can follow up ... but follow up on the entire text and suggestions, if you will. If you have ideas, the desire to present them and the willingness to volunteer to implement them, by all means.

[2fly]

First why do the Brtis get CV's??? They never brought anything close to France for fear the Bismark would sink an entire fleet.
Second since we are dealing with a limited plane set why is the CV hardness at 2.5? Right now the allies have 3 cv's parked off of Frances coast beating the tar out of us and we can't do a thing about it.
Third where are our shore batterys? I've been to Normandy and the busted bunkers are still there to this day.

For an arena thats supposed to be about historical matches you guys sure are giving this one to the Allies on a silver platter.
This needs to change its not even close to what the BOB was.

Anything I missed Axis players feel free to add on.

I agree that the carriers should not be present on either side.

As for the bunkers you saw in Normandy, the Atlantic Wall fortifications were not begun untill 1942 after Germany had already lost the Battle of Britain.  So I can forgive the lack of those.

[lutrel]

The Avengers are not complaining, in fact we are enjoying having to work a little harder for our Axis pay check.  As for any Axis guys needing direction, we have posted some objectives, to work on as a team, in the Axis forums.  <S>

[1redrum]

The Avengers are not complaining, in fact we are enjoying having to work a little harder for our Axis pay check.  As for any Axis guys needing direction, we have posted some objectives, to work on as a team, in the Axis forums.  <S>

  Avengers

[Odee]

You mean, the one where we didn't have any until we started complaining about it? 

No, I mean the one where you started with ONE CV and took TWO of ours.

...I DONT enjoy fighting an invincible enemy.

This must be why you only ride LW, and take JU-87's, ME-109's and was it JU-88's off the CV you did have in BoB, but unfortunately lost.

Call a waghmbulance please.

[Motherland]

This must be why you only ride LW, and take JU-87's, ME-109's and was it JU-88's off the CV you did have in BoB, but unfortunately lost.

You've lost at least one, also... probably more. But, since you have ports they just respawned. Thus, you have an infinite army of CV's.

I never flew a Ju88 off of a CV. I doubt it would be able to get off the deck with a full bombload. Plus, if you want to do your 'if Britain had CV's in the BoB', the Luftwaffe DID have operational carrier versions of the Bf109 and the Ju87, Though the Graf Zeppelin was never completed. And, the Bf109T was used in Defence of the Reich dutys even once the Graf Zeppelin was ditched. They were used by Jasta Helgoland which was absorbed by JG11 in 1944 IIRC to form 11./JG11, which used them with some success, though I dont know how much.


I'm not asking for much. I completely and wholeheartedly acknowelage that you are beating us. I just wish that we could fight on even ground.
This is supposed to be the Battle of Britain, not the Battle of the English Channel.

This must be why you only ride LW,

What does that have to do with anything? JG11 is a commited Luftwaffe squad, we dont fly anything but Luftwaffe aircraft. Thats what we choose to fly.

[Odee]

...Though the Graf Zeppelin was never completed. And, the Bf109T was used in Defence of the Reich dutys even once the Graf Zeppelin was ditched. They were used by Jasta Helgoland which was absorbed by JG11 in 1944 IIRC to form 11./JG11, which used them with some success, though I dont know how much.

Actually the Graf Zepplin was completed... and used as a target vessel after the war.  It was the Flugzeugträger B that was scraped in 1940

Graf Zepplin Laid down: Deutsche Werke Kiel, 28.12.1936
Launched: 08.12.1938
Commissioned:
Fate: sunk 16.08.1947 (Baltic Sea)
 

Flugzeugträger B  Laid down: Germaniawerft Kiel, 1938
Launched: 01.07.1940 (planned)
Commissioned:
Fate: incomplete ship scrapped 28.02.1940

source: http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/carrier/index.html
 
 

[Motherland]

Oh, right. Thanks 

11./JG11 was certainly outfitted with the 109T though. I have photographs