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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2008, 09:01:46 AM »
No conspiracy theory here, but is it possible that something changed with the new version of AH?  I get a lot more assists on aircraft that show no visible dammage, and forget hitting the fuselage of a bomber instead of the engines or wings, even with 7-8 shells.  The Mk 108 seemed a little weak before, but now it is worse. :noid

Sometimes it works in my favor.  A very good K-4 pilot caused me to overshoot the other day, and popped me with the 30mm, but only my engine died.  No fire, no other dammage.  I was able to glide away for a ditch and rob him of his kill. :rolleyes:

Programmers who play this game have said that it is very easy to change something by accident... I would appreciate it if this were looked into.

i popped a D3A with the MK108 and it did nothing from less than 100 out.
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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2008, 09:07:03 AM »
i popped a D3A with the MK108 and it did nothing from less than 100 out.

The round went through the paper plane without exploding.

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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2008, 09:11:06 AM »
sorry for not being more correct,

i hit the D3A in the main body and the wings with maybe 7 shots at the most.
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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2008, 09:15:11 AM »
I fly the K-4 a lot.  I have not notice any difference in cannon lethality.  You still have to hit the target, which is not always easy with the 30mm.  

I know the rate of fire is high for a 30mm cannon (The Germans traded rate of fire for muzzle velocity), but I believe it is still lower than a Hispano and a lot lower than 50cal.  It is possible for a maneuvering target to fly through the bullet stream without receiving a cannon hit.  Snap-shots are not easy in a K-4.  The rate of fire means you may not score a hit where you may have scored a couple of hits with 2 or 4 hispanos.

On a different note, the video of the 30mm hit on the Spitfire was cool.  Yep, it works like that in the game.  One hit, Spit looses wing.

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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2008, 10:05:50 AM »
sorry for not being more correct,

i hit the D3A in the main body and the wings with maybe 7 shots at the most.
You have any film of that?
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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2008, 10:09:57 AM »
I fly the K-4 a lot.  I have not notice any difference in cannon lethality.  You still have to hit the target, which is not always easy with the 30mm.  

I know the rate of fire is high for a 30mm cannon (The Germans traded rate of fire for muzzle velocity), but I believe it is still lower than a Hispano and a lot lower than 50cal.  It is possible for a maneuvering target to fly through the bullet stream without receiving a cannon hit.  Snap-shots are not easy in a K-4.  The rate of fire means you may not score a hit where you may have scored a couple of hits with 2 or 4 hispanos.

On a different note, the video of the 30mm hit on the Spitfire was cool.  Yep, it works like that in the game.  One hit, Spit looses wing.
I agree with scotch, I fly the k4 alot aswell, and i have some multiple 30mm hit sprites in snapshots that simply did nothing.
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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2008, 10:22:13 AM »
It didn't change.  In fact, it's the same lethality as it's been since version 1.04- as far back as I can easily look in our source history.

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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2008, 10:41:58 AM »
Pyro, so it's just a packet loss problem?  Is it normal that fighters (e.g. Spitfires) take a round of 30mm and only leak engine oil?  For as long as I can remember, a hit in the engine would always stop it cold.  Is it the damage model that's changed?
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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2008, 10:52:18 AM »
Show me a film and I'll tell you.

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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2008, 11:00:56 AM »
I'd have to look through a lot of films that I've compressed to save space.. I hope the offer stands if I send you those films in a week or two (at most).

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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2008, 02:30:13 PM »
I've noticed this, I've needed to double-peg fighters lately to make sure they go down.

Maybe it's just me but it seems like the time between a hit registering on my FE and the corresponding catastrophic damage occurring has increased.


Agreed.... It seems like the whole game has frame rate issues with the new version...
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Re: Who porked the Mk 108?
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2008, 02:39:59 PM »
You have any film of that?

i will check, but i highly doubt it since i check and remove films daily.
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