The root of all man's modern problems

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with alcohol blood levels 3 times what the law allows..  I would maintain that I was a better driver than my last ex or.. most  asians for that matter..

 

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Lazs
i definitely agree with the driving and heavy machinery (not operating)  while under the influence. when people drink and drive or are on real drugs and drive that is most assuredly wrong they are taking all the people who share the roads lives in hand and that is not right,

 but i dont see pot as being a drug,( i do have people who wont let me ink em unless we blow a bone or two) its classified the same as heroin. by our "government". thats so bullcrap,
the way i see it,  the government is and have been in the past the biggest drug dealers ever. but im not part of the government maybe they really do want us to be safe and are truly looking out for our best interests.
 
   Paul

[lazs2]

ink.. you need to take a long hard look at your addiction.   you have traded one mind altering and mood altering drug for another.. All drugs affect the mind and the physical.. pot will make you a cripple while on the worst/best of it.

It is a drug as powerful as most other illegal drugs.  I would say that there are lots of drugs that are illegal that there are some jobs some people can work with on them.. heroin addicts can be great writers or musicians for instance.

I just don't want to share the road or be in any of your hands where quick thinking and physical ability is needed.

I am not sure what you are saying tho... 

Are you saying that you want your drug to be legal and that it is still ok with you to put people in prison for using drugs you don't care for?

lazs

[AquaShrimp]

Most people who use drugs to an excessive level have an underlying mental problem.  These drugs actually help to alleviate this problem, but *may* cause other problems that have an even greater effect.

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Lazs...
  well i certainly dont think we should put drug users in prison,  freedom of choice
as far as pot making a person a cripple that is not gonna happen.
my dads twin brother is almost blind due to glaucoma, (he has never smoked pot) my dad on the other hand should have glaucomas of the eye but his vision is perfect, for a man his age, his doctor basicly told him it was the pot that stopped it.  pot is a medicine, and should be used as such, i know all kinds of old timer pot heads that are not cripple, now i do agree that every thing used to excess is bad, there is only one thing that a person cant get to much of... that is love, every thing else in excess is bad for us, food we need it to live but it will kill us, i almost died due to pancreantitus  i spent a month in the hospital and for four months was tube fed through my chest because of it, due to eating to much fat, i was 270 pounds. now i am allowed 10 grams of fat a day. 
  oxygen we need to live, but to much will kill us, what i am trying to say is "love" is the most important thing in this world  and sad to say " the love of each other is gone from this world" people "love" there car or there house or there guns or what ever it is, but that is not the love i speak of, the love i speak of is GOD,   GOD is love, and that love we can never get to much of.
   Lazs you seem like a smart person and i can tell by what you say that you are not just talking crap, about your past addictions, and im very happy you over came them,  but do you really believe that pot is as bad as heroin?   pot  is  from GOD in the very beginning of the bible GOD says "i have giving you all seed bearing herbs to use  for you it shall be food..."   now before you jump to conclusions "Food" does not necessarily mean  sustenance, for Yeshua (jesus) says to eat his body and drink his blood, do you think he was telling us to eat human flesh? of course not,  food for the spirit or soul, that is what pot is, but again most things in excess is bad. now im NOT  telling you to go get stoned, i would not want you to revert back to your addictions.  and some people weed is that gateway . i have a very good friend that used to be addicted to  pot and that led him to all other drugs so now he don't do any, he over came the drugs by stopping all, and for him that was great, i say he is a very good friend because i have been tattooing him for 15 years i covered his whole back and both his arms, and we became good friends while that was happening,  i would be pissed at him if he smoked pot, cuz i know it would lead to other stuff, I have never been addicted to  drugs i have done them all, just never got addicted to them. i am addicted to, believe it or not, Aces High. 
  but truly i am addicted to my wife and kids, i couldn't live with out them,  nor would i want to!!! 
Lazs do you believe in GOD? seriously? if not i wish you would open your heart, because he(used figuratively)  loves us, he gave us life, and we should thank him for that, dont think about what religion has done in Gods "name" that is people actions, people have distorted what God has said.
  anyways   i must close
peace   paul

[lazs2]

well... not gonna get into the biblical part of it or how much pot jesus smoked but...

You say pot is medical...  I would put to you that heroin is medicinal and used far more than any form of pot.. it is also a plant.. it is "nature"  I knew lots of functional heroin addicts.

alcohol is the original medical wonder... it can still be used to kill germs and can be injected to kill nerves.   

No arguement that says that pot is not a mind altering drug is worth listening to. 

I have no problem with people who use pot for the few medicinal reasons that they do or... with anyone who uses it to simply get high and ignore the real world.. that is their choice to make.. not mine.. none of my business.. but...  Just like the pain sufferer that is on a heroin derivative or self medicating on booze..

I don't want to have them around me on the roads and.. to be honest..  not really that great to be around at all.   I won't go shooting with loadies.

I think that those who want pot legalized are kidding themselves.. pot will not get respect from it.. the pot heads will be ridiculed and looked at with disgust.    I have seen pot break up families.   I have seen pot heads throw their livelyhood away. 

There is no real difference between one addict and another.   Most addicts reach a point where they are functional on their drug of choice no matter what it is.

Drugs.. including pot.. are liars.   They tell you that they are your friend and that they are making you a better human... later..  they tell you that they are your only friend.   They tell you that reality is the lie and that you have no problem except that you don't get enough of your drug.

As for my belief in god..  I do believe in a supreme being.. a creator who gave me the strength to do what is right if I listen and ask for it.  I do not believe that any human understands what god wants except in his heart.   I will not confuse mans laws with gods laws.   I have no idea if jesus lived or not or was the son of god.   How could I?   I suspect that every religion in the world has some glimmer of what god is but has perverted that.

I believe this because when I have asked my god for the strength to get through things that I could not have on my own... he gave it to me.  I tend to sink back into arrogance from time to time but... I realize where my real strength (such as it is) comes from.

I do not fear death or meeting my maker.   My maker won't pick some group and say that they were the only ones who knew what he wanted and the rest will burn in some ltardglock poster version of hell.

lazs

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dont think(jesus)Yeshua smoked any pot,  and i totaly respect your believes.