Under God in pledge of allegiance.

[AWMac]

Whoa I just said I believe and I'm attacked. 
Accused of the speaker for all man/nations?
No, I just speak for myself.
I said I believed in GOD. If you don't then find your OWN way, I've found mine.

Holy Crap Batman....

Mac

[SkyRock]

Whoa I just said I believe and I'm attacked. 
Accused of the speaker for all man/nations?
No, I just speak for myself.
I said I believed in GOD. If you don't then find your OWN way, I've found mine.

Holy Crap Batman....

Mac

That's the point, Mac,everyone has their own belief and putting that on the nations currency was in a way, subjecting everyone to a belief!  Not a good thing for a free government to do IMHO!

[SaburoS]

Much ado about nothing IMHO. I'd rather it not be in our Pledge of Allegiance but am not going to lose sleep over it.
However, putting it on our money, I really don't see a problem with it at all (to date). Now if it was specific in saying "In Jesus we trust.", "In Christ we trust.", or "In Mohammed we trust.", then I'd probably not want in on my currency.
I see nothing wrong as using paper and common metals as currency takes a bit of faith. What better universal symbol than God = faith.
"In God we trust." looks and sounds better than "In faith we trust." or "In the hope that this money is worth something."
This coming from a person denying the existence of a Supreme Being. <shrug>

[SirLoin]

What better universal symbol than God = faith.
"In God we trust." looks and sounds better than "In faith we trust." or "In the hope that this money is worth something."

Faith is defined in the dictionary as "the firm belief in something for which there is no evidence or proof"

So by definition faith is irrational..Faith=Irrational

You really want "In Irrationality We Trust" on your currency?

[Rolex]

Faith is defined in the dictionary as "the firm belief in something for which there is no evidence or proof"

So by definition faith is irrational..Faith=Irrational

You really want "In Irrationality We Trust" on your currency?

That describes fiat currency pretty good, so I think it's appropriate. 

[Coshy]

People who forward chain letters should have to spend 1 year at hard labor for each one they forward.

[Tango]

Unless you have more than one God (see 'Monotheism' versus 'Polytheism') or simply don't believe there is a god and don't want the US to move in the direction of Iran's or Afghanistan's previous theocracy.

"Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor . . ."

You know who wrote this?


 

[SOB]

"In God we trust." looks and sounds better than ... "In the hope that this money is worth something."

I dunno, I kinda like the latter. 

[Denholm]

Well if that's true,then majority rules for now(democracy has spoken).All the more incentive for us non-beleivers to raise awareness & purge the minds of irrationality.

The day will come when reason (based on evidence) wins this poll.

Yes it will, the Bible clearly says this. If any believer refutes this, they better take a look at Revelations.

[MORAY37]

for the seatbelts..  a group is telling you what you must do for your own good.. if you do not they will fine you or arrest you or kill you if you resist.   



lazs

I don't believe cops have the authority of deadly force for seatbelt infractions.  I may be wrong where you live, though Lazs.  Here it is a 20$ dollar fine and is an offense they cannot explicitly pull you over for.  Every post you get nuttier and nuttier.

[Chairboy]

Moray, the word today is 'escalation'.  Just a few weeks ago, an officer tazed a person pulled over for speeding because the person was trying to point out a speed limit sign.  A few hundred folks have died from tazings.  Alternately, there's the old 'resisting arrest' or 'interfering with the operations of an officer' methodology that can be used to escalate the mildest situation into something deadly if the 'perp' isn't following the script.

This is why officers are held to such a high standard, and thankfully, the vast vast majority meet this standard.  It's when the exception has a bad day that innocent people can die, and a seatbelt stop is as good a catalyst as any.

[lazs2]

moray..again you show the inability to think past your nose.

go ahead and not pay a tax or a fine.   let it grow.. when they come to take you.. resist.   you will be injured or killed.   People have been killed because they refused to go to jail over a tax or a fine in many many cases.  For a traffic ticket.. you will be issued a warrant.  if you are stopped with a warrant then you will be arrested.. if you resist.. you will be injured or killed.  all because you did not wear a seatbelt.. all to save you.  for your own good.  This is nothing like "in god we trust" on the money.

skyrock.. This may shock you but..  if more than 80% of the people wanted "in satan we trust" on the money and in the pledge.. it would happen.  That would be fine with me.   They won't fine you or kill you for not saying "in satan I trust" or pledging in satans name.. you are not harmed.   Get a majority of the people to say that they don't want god or satan or alfred e newman on the money and it will happen.  No big deal.

Now..  you want to fine or imprison people who wont say it.. that is another matter.

but to get all upset over something that causes you no harm is just whiny agenda crap.

lazs

[Tango]

Come on Choirboy, tell me who you think said this.

"Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor . . ."

You know who wrote this?

[acfireguy26]

Come on Choirboy, tell me who you think said this.

"Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor . . ."

You know who wrote this?

George Washington

[Chairboy]

It's a great quote.  Would you mind clarifying exactly where in the Constitution or Bill of Rights that text is from?

Oh, right...  it's not there.  It's a proclamation, establishing the holiday Thanksgiving.