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Old Subway Cars As Artificial Reef
« on: April 09, 2008, 12:20:10 PM »
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"Hundreds of retired New York City subway cars are being sunk sixteen nautical miles off Delaware's Indian River Inlet and about 80 feet underwater, continuing the transformation of a barren stretch of ocean floor into a bountiful oasis, carpeted in sea grasses, walled thick with blue mussels and sponges, and teeming with black sea bass and tautog. 'They're basically luxury condominiums for fish,' says Jeff Tinsman, artificial reef program manager for the Delaware Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Control. Subway cars are roomy enough to invite certain fish, too heavy to shift easily in storms, and durable enough to avoid throwing off debris for decades. Tinsman particularly favors the newer subway cars with stainless steel on the outside to create reefs. 'We call these the DeLoreans of the deep,' he said. But success comes at a price because other states, seeing Delaware's successes, have started competing for the subway cars, which New York City provides free. 'The secret is out, I guess,' said Michael G. Zacchea, the MTA official in charge of getting rid of New York City's old subway cars."

Found this on slashdot. .....and this action seems like just throwing old toejam in the sea with wonderful PR....

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Re: Old Subway Cars As Artificial Reef
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2008, 02:35:25 PM »
I especially like the part that said where they were too heavy to be easily moved by storms...

What a crock, when Andrew came up on the coast off of Florida in '92, it moved many of the ships sunk as artificial reefs including ripping several apart.

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 03:06:32 PM »
Well, its the same story over and over. Someone believes they made something that beats nature, then they go running with their tail between their legs saying, "Well, this is one of those 'rare' occasions that was never supposed to happen!"
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Re: Old Subway Cars As Artificial Reef
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2008, 07:09:48 PM »
We all know the Diving capital of the world is just 16 miles East of the mouth of the Delaware River so divers from all over the world will flock to see the Sunken Subway Cars from New York, Then they will realize they can see them much cheaper just by buying a fair on the A-Train In the Bronx.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: Old Subway Cars As Artificial Reef
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 08:18:32 PM »
Diving in New England is about as fun as diving in a sewage treatment plant.


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Re: Old Subway Cars As Artificial Reef
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2008, 01:49:15 AM »
Diving in New England is about as fun as diving in a sewage treatment plant.


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How about we go dive for some lobsters off the coast of Bailey Island.

Maybe we could dive on some of the may wrecks off the Cape?

Better yet, lets dive the Andrea Doria....  mind the nets... but they are far from a sewage treatment plant.
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Re: Old Subway Cars As Artificial Reef
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2008, 03:10:53 PM »
160 feet for the Andrea Doria stretches the limits of recreational diving doesn't it?

Just checked wikipedia, they report now the top of the wreck is at 190 feet.
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Re: Old Subway Cars As Artificial Reef
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2008, 03:16:16 PM »
160 feet for the Andrea Doria stretches the limits of recreational diving doesn't it?

Just checked wikipedia, they report now the top of the wreck is at 190 feet.

Doesn't everyone have one of them little 1 person submarines? :D

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Re: Old Subway Cars As Artificial Reef
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2008, 05:45:25 PM »
Just wait the "gangs" of fish will have them covered with graphitti in no time :rofl