No british tanks other than firefly?

[Yarbles]

You're joking right?   IMHO anything prior to Comet would be a death sentence to the crew (much like the basic M4), and the Comet barely made it into combat, although it did participate in the Rhine crossing. Again, this is just my opinion, but British armor didn't really begin to shine until Centurian, and that was one formidable beast.

Cant agree, the cromwell would bring speed and a respectable 75mm. Though no Tiger killer in could take on 34, m4 and panzer. Its actually the obvious choice.   

[Cthulhu]

but don't think for a second that the jagdpanther would go unscathed against the M36, the Su-100, or, God forbid, the Su-122.

Realized I fat-fingered that one. make that the Su-152. I believe these things were used after the war in Russian circuses to fire "Human Canonballs". 

Cant agree, the cromwell would bring speed and a respectable 75mm. Though no Tiger killer in could take on 34, m4 and panzer. Its actually the obvious choice.   

I believe the ROQF 75 on the Cromwell has less armor penetration than the 6-pounder, being better suited to firing HE than AP, and pales in comparison to the 17-pounder for killing tanks. Besides, I can just see those rivets flying around the inside of the turret when hit. Riveted armor is a bad idea.

[Yarbles]

Realized I fat-fingered that one. make that the Su-152. I believe these things were used after the war in Russian circuses to fire "Human Canonballs". 
I believe the ROQF 75 on the Cromwell has less armor penetration than the 6-pounder, being better suited to firing HE than AP, and pales in comparison to the 17-pounder for killing tanks. Besides, I can just see those rivets flying around the inside of the turret when hit. Riveted armor is a bad idea.

Which of the tanks will withstand a direct hit to the turret other than Tiger. Not sure about the 75mm I read and heard the Cromwell was a match for the the Panzer but outclassed by the Panther and Tiger.

[Yarbles]

Done some more research and there is a definate question mark over the adequacy of the 75mm even against the Panzer. With a top speed of between 32 and 40 mph it might still make an interesting addition. The Comet I believe would simply repace the panzer t34 and firefly unless it was perked heavily. It could be usefull above the Firefly but close to par with the Tiger. 

[Cthulhu]

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Cromwells (or especially Comets) in the game. They may very well be quick enough to elude spawn-campers, and in the case of the Comet, turn the tables on the campers in short order. I like the idea of spawn-campers suddenly having to worry about who's shooting at them.

[dirt911]

seriously dude we got every tank except british ones

[Larry]

seriously dude we got every tank except british ones

Um no we dont and we have a british tank already its called the M4.

[dirt911]

no actually its an american tank with a british gun the 17 pounder was british

[715]

On the tank destroyers without turrets, what was the azimuth range for the gun?  Would it be enough that you could be successful keeping your engine off or is is small enough that you would have to have your engine on to pivot and thereby miss audible cues to incoming enemy?

[dirt911]

if this is wat ur sayin tank guns on tanks such as the comet or sherman and tiger will reach atleast half a mile

[Motherland]

no actually its an american tank with a british gun the 17 pounder was british

Its a tank under British ownership that had the gun replaced; none were used by the Americans. Yes, its a British tank.

if this is wat ur sayin tank guns on tanks such as the comet or sherman and tiger will reach atleast half a mile

I've gotten kills at over two miles (probably around 3,500 yards) in the Tiger before.

[E25280]

On the tank destroyers without turrets, what was the azimuth range for the gun?  Would it be enough that you could be successful keeping your engine off or is is small enough that you would have to have your engine on to pivot and thereby miss audible cues to incoming enemy?

The traverse for the gun varied by vehicle, but I believe about a 20 degree arc was fairly common.  In other words, if you had a good idea as to your enemy's direction of approach, you could easily aim your tank in the general direction and be able to train the gun and hit him.  If you were not so certain, then the lack of a turret would definitely be a liability.

[Larry]

no actually its an american tank with a british gun the 17 pounder was british

No, actually it was a tank bought by the brits that had a british gun installed and used ONLY by the british thus making it a british tank. Thank you try again.

[Cthulhu]

On the tank destroyers without turrets, what was the azimuth range for the gun?  Would it be enough that you could be successful keeping your engine off or is is small enough that you would have to have your engine on to pivot and thereby miss audible cues to incoming enemy?

My guess would be plus or minus 15 to 20 degrees.

Of course, you could always forget that and point the gun like an S-Tank. Always thought that was really messed up.

[Yarbles]

No, actually it was a tank bought by the brits that had a british gun installed and used ONLY by the british thus making it a british tank. Thank you try again.

Ok but this is not the point. Sherman non firefly is going to struggle so we got the firefly because I dont think any allied tank stacked up other than this one by late war.

Actually how did the US guys kill Tigers, Panthers and Late Panzer  4's  with US tanks?

Anyway the Comet perked and strictly late war. W e have that is it TA152 type 190 that virtually never saw action. No other allied tank is going to make a dent on the onese we have already and its another real Tiger killer and oooo so fast it will liven the ground war up. For me though Perk it up with the Tiger about the same.

BTW dont see many T34'S so if we get basic m4, grant cromwell etc I dont think anyone will drive em unless the cromwell does 40 mph in which I would for sure and get round behind the other and give it to them where it hurts.

And cromwell is so pretty, it looks just like the tank you draw when you should be concentrating in lessons at school.

Final word Cromwell and Comet as long as the cromwell is ungoverned and so can do 40mph. Will give a new dimension to the tank war.