WhirbleWind less vulnerable than the Osti?

[Nilsen]

Its tough to say if you are more deficient in intellect or class. 

Are you picking on the zinc member? beeing a gold memeber you should know to let zinc members get away with stuff

[Carwash]

In short, vehicles are obviously FUBAR, to some degree with damage modeling and majorly with collision modeling.

Its probably true that in ACES HIGH, the developers put more time into flight modeling than ground traffic modeling.

[Nilsen]

Armor of a wirbelwind side is 16mm thick . you probably will have some trouble penetrating that with a .50 since you dont normally have 90 degree angle to the armor.
If you penetrate the round itself  will not wobble around like a maniac. scrapnels that could penetrate and incapacitating its crew should limited.
penetration:

 "TM 9-1305-201-20&P: M2 AP
Used by M2 and M85 machine guns. The cartridge is for use against light-armored or unarmored targets, concrete shelters, and similar bullet-resisting targets."

Armor Penetration.
500 meters: 0.75 in (19 mm)
1,200 meters: 0.39 in (10 mm)

Is that data taken from modern rounds or from ww2 ammo?

[DREDIOCK]

It's pretty weak.  A handful of bullets on target, or an M8 round in the turret are enough to disable it. 

I can attest to this as one of my favorite passtimes is cruising around in an M8 and popping peoples turrets. then driving away. 

[rabbidrabbit]

Is that data taken from modern rounds or from ww2 ammo?

They are pretty much the same.

Also, the tops of both the osti and WW are open so there is no armor at all at high angles of attack.

[Larry]

I have ran up on a wirbel with a jeep and disabled many of thier turrets. Once there were about five wirbels doing a great job of working together heading for our town. I watched as many planes died as they went afver them. I then rolled a Jeep and zoomed through thier little formation and took out three turrets before being sent to the tower. Try it out in the DA if you want.

[save]

Normally at combat ranges you will have trouble killing a wirbelwind/ostwind  due to the fact that dispersion of wingmounted guns should give limited hits on a small target itself ( wirbelwind turret).
Dispersion is weak in AH2 and you can both hit and penetrate armor of even a MBT- something that should be fixed imo.

[Getback]

I can't tell any difference. However, is the view suppose to be so obstructed in the osty? Another thing, I can turn off the tracers in the WW but not the Osty. Is that suppose to be that way?

[ShrkBite]

LMAO! This thread reminds me of yesturday i turreted a WW with just my Pistol. HAHAHA TOO FUNNY!

[rabbidrabbit]

Its probably true that in ACES HIGH, the developers put more time into flight modeling than ground traffic modeling.

Whats your point?

[442w30]

I have ran up on a wirbel with a jeep and disabled many of thier turrets. Once there were about five wirbels doing a great job of working together heading for our town. I watched as many planes died as they went afver them. I then rolled a Jeep and zoomed through thier little formation and took out three turrets before being sent to the tower. Try it out in the DA if you want.

That said, you are an exceptional GVer and the normal Gver probably wouldn't be able to get away with that. Me for instance!   

I like to up flaks and have gone back to the Osti since the last patch because I think it gets turreted less often.  I got real sick of getting one or two pings in a WW and being out of action. 

[VansCrew1]

I popped a WW turret with my .45 today. Just go's to show how weak it is.

[mensa180]

I definitely don't have the best aim, but I can kill them just fine with the 50s in a 38.  No super long bursts needed, just don't miss, because you won't be able to (for the most part) make another pass.

[moot]

Some guys just don't think things thru.  The crew in the open GVs have the same DM as the gunners/pilots in planes...  I straffed a bunch of WWs today, with 50 cals.. You can walk the bullets to the turret and trash it with just a few hits.  They're no harder to damage than field guns.
6x50cal x 100 rounds or so + 500 extra ft/s + human body = ? 

[Tr1gg22]

Are you picking on the zinc member? beeing a gold memeber you should know to let zinc members get away with stuff

    ive been around for 2+ years just never registered