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Offline Saintaw

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« on: April 18, 2000, 02:10:00 AM »
I will be out of town for a week after that ...


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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2000, 02:58:00 AM »
Hyas SAW Sorry for the delay again ....

Here's my AAR right away:

M;issin outline:

We were to Attack an armored collumn with Tiffies while P51's should provide TOP - Cover.

The Plan was that the P51's Alt first and establish local air superiority so the Tiffies could come in low and mix up the tans. Unfortunately the P51's spotted the enemy with no clear advantage and was engaged  a bit early.
A wild furball was the result with 109's and P51's everywhere, where the Climb performance and acceleration advantage prrofed to be daedly for quite a few 51's. I didn't even see our Tiffies arrive.. but from radio chatter i got that the sucessfully dropped on the tanks destroying or disabling some but not all of them before they got engaged.

Results for the P51's:
    Duckwing6 1 Plane damaged (black smoke probable kill) - shot down and listed as K.I.A
    JMW       1 Plane damaged(unconfirmed) - Landed safely
    Blitz     1 Assist                     - Landed safely
    BULL      2 Kills    - Emergency landing at A60 with dead engine
    JokerB77  no kills claimed - landed safely
    Ceeray    1 Kill     - Bailed 1 mile from A29 walked home
    Beach2    3 Kills    - Ditched due to damage behind friendly lines (aircraft unsalvageable)
    Wizzer    2 Kills 2 Assists - Landed safely

I don't have the account of our Tiffy Flight as Ghosth somehow escaped interrogation before he left  

Here's Ceerays Report:
Mission: escort
result :bailed out
kill claims : 1 x 109 (Chain)

What happened : Well we just took off from A32 and formed up while we were climbing leisurely. We were just chattering on the radio when we got information that British mechanics were having a bad hangover and they had forgotten to fill Typhoons tanks full up..   well when we were laughing at them  someone spotted little dots on the same level but northways.. BANDITS!

Well we then followed Duck while he tried to evade and keep outta of fight but they got too close...we had to dive in. In ensuing fight I was able to hit one 109 badly but he just kept flying...and then I had to veer off when someone tried to fry ass! Finally i was able to kill one 109 from full deflection and at the same time his wingman got my ass...hehe
we both ( I and Chain who i had shot down) had a smoke on the ground and watched the fight still going on. Lotsa planes fell down..ours and theirs. Finally I jogged to nearby A29 airfield and there I just got a great thought!!! Why not to continue our party here !! So I "loaned" one of those mud-jockey`s M16 AA car and drove to Chains position...Well he didnt really like to come to my party ( POW....) but 4 x .50`s are a very good asset in negotiations.. finally I had 4 messmates with me ( rooks   and I drove the M16 to our nearest base...of course those MP`s were really pissed of.. But we drunk beer all the night ,) ....
Hope my CO will understand why  I missed next day`s debrief...


Mr. Ceeray has been ordered for 2 weeks of potatoe peeling duties for "loaning" an Army M16  

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2000, 07:16:00 AM »
Hey Duckie!  The guy took 4 pilots as POW! ...must count for something  

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2000, 09:43:00 AM »
Sorry Duck, bit of both I reckon

Rolled with 5 other Typhoons (friendly coll on made this interesting) headed for 19.

Hooked up with what was left of the escort on the other side of 19, saw 3 chutes floating down.

Fariz apparently spotted tanks (I didn't)
and asked if we could engage. We turned & hit them on their flank.

Dropped both of my bombs, 1 kill 1 assist.

pulled back up, and went around again, got a 2nd assist with my cannons.
 
3rd pass I got too low & clipped a hill.
Lost eng & glided to a just out of tank range. Picked up by bull.

Kills I saw Fariz get 4, not sure on Citrabia, didn't see anyone else get more than 2.

Est total kills 10

(Sorry about the delay SCDuck)

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2000, 04:10:00 PM »
Mission:
 
We were to attack field A29 with vehicles from V47, while 109's would cover us from attacks from the sky.
 
Pilots:
I was given specific order not to assign more than 8 players in the fighter group and so the rest went with the panzer and I myself took a M16. Later more people dropped in asking if they could join, and I told them to take a M16 and try to catch up with us.
 
Flight 1 109G10:
Chain(lead)
Swavek
Staga
Sr2053
timbers
VISCONTI
Snafu
Janjan

 
Ground Forces 1 (PzIVH's)
Duma(lead)
FunkedUp
Azrael
Ardy
Dins
Cars
Steed
Reaper
Dogftr
Wmutt
 
Ground Forces 2 (M16's)
Snefens
tk421 (caught up after a few minutes)
Wilbus (caught up minutes before the typhoons attacked)
MadDog (likewise)
 
 
Mission Events:
 
While we waited for the start signal the panzers used the time posing for Duma's camera.
Then the signal was given and we started rolling. At first I was only M16 but 3 more players joined and caught up before the action. Some minutes after our departure our escort took off, and they reached us before we saw anything to the enemies.
 
Then incoming enemies were spotted and our 109's engaged. Aparently we were in a slight disadvantage (read Chain's report below) and casulties were heavy on both sides. As I don't have a film   I can only try to remember how we thought the action was going (the battle for us was purely dots dancing around, but we followed the score statistics) 0-1...1-1...1-2...2-2... 2-3...2-4...(2-5?). Well basically the rest of the 109's had to withdraw and now the Tiffies entered the scene. They first cruised around in the distance (fail to spot at first or just planning attack run?).
I pinged one of them as he passed me at about d800 (attacking some of the others?) and then started shooting at the next that came right at me from hi angle. He dropped his bombs on me and I was out.
Soon after the rest of the M16's got bombed and then they moved on to the panzers. Some of the 109's that managed to escape earlier got back now and visconti shot down one Tiffie. Ardy in his tank shot down a plane too (unknown type).
I am not sure about how many of our tanks made it to the enemy airfield, but I did check its damage at a time and all plane hangars were down along with some of the ack, fuel and ammo bunkers.
I had to leave before the scenario was all complete tho, so I didn't get to check the end result. I changed side to go to the 29 field tower just before I left and saw some 3? of our tanks shelling it and it fighting with pzrs coming out from the base.
 
Pilot results:
 
I only got a few reports and this is what I have been able to come up with. A "?" or MIA means i don't know for sure what happend to them.
 
Chain: Bailed and rescued
Swavek: (bailed?)
Staga: (bailed?)
Sr2053:Killed
timbers: 1 kill (p51), Killed
Visconti: 1kill (typhoon), bailed and rescued
Snafu: 1kill (p51), ditched/bailed
janjan: (bailed?)
 
Duma: Killed
FunkedUp: MIA
Azrael: MIA
Ardy: 1 kill, MIA
Dins: MIA
Cars: MIA
Steed: Killed
Reaper: MIA
Dogftr: Killed
Wmutt: Killed
 
Snefens: Killed
tk421: Killed
Wilbus: Killed
MadDog: Killed

 
Summary:
 
Planes
3 kills
8 planes lost
3 pilots rescued
2 pilots killed
3 pilots MIA
 
Conclusion:
The actual ground attack reached its goal, but for a massive cost in both air and ground vehicles and pilots too.
 
Sorry for delay

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2000, 06:47:00 PM »
Thank you !

Data will be up tomorrow ! (Evening)

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2000, 08:08:00 AM »
Just for the records i think JanJan shot me down ..